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One more thing…

Okay, I can’t stand it — one more politics post, then it’s chicken blogging for a month. I swears.

This is the first election in my life that has made absolutely no sense to me.

It’s not the losing. I’m used to losing. I lived in Rhode Island for thirty years — an experience that so warped my concept of democracy that voting, to me, is screwing up enthusiasm every two years to pull a lever for things that will inevitably be shot down 25/75. Losing I take in stride. Badge of honor. No big.

What’s throwing me about this election is that my judgment was so far out. I got all the signs and portents wrong.

We owned the enthusiasm gap. We had, for the first time going into a presidential election, more registered R than registered D. We were easily walking the bumpersticker and yard sign wars. Our guy was happy, their guy was cranky. Our crowds were growing, theirs were shrinking. The issues were all breaking our way (epically lousy economy…erupting Middle East). We had an attractive candidate with, for once, the perfect skill set for the problems at hand.

And you’re telling me every single one of the Republican issues went down in flames? Alan West? Mia Love? Gay marriage? Legalized marijuana? Everything?

The historical 2010 midterm Spanking of the Dems made perfect and absolute sense. And then the electorate swung hugely to the Democrat side in the two years since? Why?

So. One of two things happened.

Either vote fraud is so deep and wide that it’s bigger than any other election factor (sour grapes + tinfoil hat = I don’t like going there, but it’s a possibility, I guess). OR my own sense of my fellow Americans is now so fucked as to be utterly worthless.

I’m not sure which of those possibilities scares me more.

Comments


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: November 8, 2012, 12:04 pm

The chooks are fine, by the way. New feathers coming in nicely. Those are old feathers that I carefully gathered while they moulted.

I’m going to make…I dunno. Dream catchers or some shit.


Comment from Yoda the Medic
Time: November 8, 2012, 12:53 pm

I believe it’s a bunch of the former, but mostly the latter. Not that your sense is fucked, but the populous that you are trying to sense is beyond sensibility.


Comment from Argentium G. Tiger
Time: November 8, 2012, 1:14 pm

Look how diligently the Democrats are investigating and prosecuting the “Fast and Furious” debacle. Use that as a guide to how much investigation and prosecution they figure they’d face on voter fraud if they engaged in it massively.

Like you, I could see where all the indicators were and saw this going for the Republicans. I’m sure the Democrats also could see the same indicators we all did, and realized how screwed they were unless they did something drastic, and engaged in voter fraud on a scale never before tried. With electronic voting machines providing cover for silently flipping huge blocks of votes without any ability to audit, I think the fix was in. Seriously, I don’t trust those things I trust pen and paper only.

Motivation:

If the Democrats tried voter fraud, but didn’t do enough of it and lost, the Republican Party would be too busy being glad they won to investigate. If the Democrats won … Who’s going to investigate and prosecute? Seriously?

That’s my take on it, for what it’s worth.

(Edit: Mrs. Tiger adds: “No wonder Obama never looked worried about how abysmally he was doing during the debates. ‘Don’t worry Mr. President, we’ll fix it for you.’”)


Comment from kilroy182
Time: November 8, 2012, 1:31 pm

As perverse as it sounds, I hope it was voter fraud. If it wasn’t and America has finally reached the tipping point, then a dissolution of the republic may be the only remedy that would preserve liberty and save a portion of us.


Comment from Stacy
Time: November 8, 2012, 1:36 pm

Never underestimate the power of the cult of personality.


Comment from Redd
Time: November 8, 2012, 1:54 pm

Fraud. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it. They cheated!


Comment from Threads
Time: November 8, 2012, 2:00 pm

Some of each, plus, as Rush said, it’s hard to run against Santa Claus.


Comment from Mrs Compton
Time: November 8, 2012, 2:05 pm

The ends justify the means, they’ve said it over and over and over. We didn’t believe them. Fraud on Chicago scale gone national.

We hadn’t seen enthusiasm like this in a very long time and to loose? Just hand me a tin foil hat.

We need a different way of voting. My son (who owns the AZ tin foil hat concession) suggested using SSN (dead will be caught that way) and cameras to take a photo of the voter.


Comment from Uncle Al
Time: November 8, 2012, 2:15 pm

There’s no one factor that explains the overall result. But I can assure you that one of the factors large enough to have made a real difference was that libertarian leaning Republicans stayed home on Tuesday. The shameful treatment of Ron Paul, who by any measure was extremely unlikely to have won the nomination, by the GOP power players in general and the Romney campaign in particular, utterly disenchanted a lot of GOP voters who would have voted for Willard.

Oh, BTW, “recreational marijuana” did get approval by voters in the states of Washington and Colorado.


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: November 8, 2012, 2:27 pm

I know, Uncle Al. That’s what I meant. Republicans aren’t usually in the pro-legalization camp, so I used that as an example where the party didn’t get its way.

I’m pro-legalization, but in a languid way, and recognize it isn’t a mainstream GOP opinion.


Comment from Deborah
Time: November 8, 2012, 2:29 pm

In years past I worked as an election volunteer. All those little jobs—the ones you can see and the ones you can’t see. There are many ways to cheat, but nothing beats electronic/digital voting. It was invented for FRAUD. And there is nothing, nothing the Democrats will not do to win.


Comment from Redd
Time: November 8, 2012, 2:34 pm

“After we win this election, it’s our turn. Payback time. Everyone not with us is against us and they better be ready because we don’t forget. The ones who helped us will be rewarded, the ones who opposed us will get what they deserve. There is going to be hell to pay. Congress won’t be a problem for us this time. No election to worry about after this is over and we have two judges ready to go.”

- Valerie Jarrett

Remember when Bush said after we were attacked on 9/11 that you are either with us or against us and the lefties just about crapped in their pants? Now, not so much.


Comment from steve
Time: November 8, 2012, 2:39 pm

In absolute numbers, McCain/Pailin garnered more votes than Romney/Ryan.

For the life of me I cannot fathom how that outcome is possible, unless there was electronic “vote siphoning” going on.

Oh, yes, I am shopping for my tinfoil hat. I’m just looking for the perfect one that has that style and flair that I require in my head gear.


Comment from Pupster
Time: November 8, 2012, 2:40 pm

Bit of both, Stoaty.

Early voting provides a long window of opportunity to stuff the boxes, away from those pesky tea party monitors. The fix was in, in October. The last number I saw was O took Ohio by 1.9%, which is not much.

Also, Mitt had the perfect skill set for what we need in a President, except he couldn’t look cool enough to the yoots of today, who have been taught to hate the evil rich from kindergarten. Even though the yoot vote is unreliable, the 20-32 year olds still want to be cool too.

The next candidate better get on twitter, reddit, youtube, carry an i-whatever device and have a purple streak in his or her hair, wear hipster glasses and a scarf around the neck and like obscure indy rock you’ve probably never heard of.


Comment from JeffS
Time: November 8, 2012, 2:41 pm

I expect that fraud played a bigger role than anyone cares to think. And no doubt some people stayed home for whatever reason they deem valid.

But, frankly, I believe that we are looking at a populace of whom most have been trained or conditioned to be low information voters, or just parasites. Bread and circuses are mighty appealing to people not interested or willing to deal with the complex issues of a complex world.


Comment from Peter Risdon
Time: November 8, 2012, 3:09 pm

Storm + Christie + revulsion at the abortion loons + increasingly secular country + religious right = Dems scrape it.


Comment from Tim
Time: November 8, 2012, 3:13 pm

What makes you think that our government is competent enough to steal votes? I’ll bet that its option number 2.


Comment from Cathy
Time: November 8, 2012, 3:40 pm

Think about:
Rape cluenessless, storm & climate change, a candidate with obvious contempt for the 47%, “I like to fire people”, vague and variable plans that didn’t add up, sneering at education and science, anti-hispanic remarks, and getting caught in lies more than Dems. This is an even bigger failure than it appears since this should have been a gimme election. The rabid right scared the electorate more than 4 years of non-performance. At least Obama is sane.


Comment from Rip VanBullwinkle
Time: November 8, 2012, 4:17 pm

The outcome of the election didn’t make any sense to me either until I realized that it proved that I was right all along. The majority of people in this country ARE blithering idiots.


Comment from Gromulin
Time: November 8, 2012, 5:09 pm

And on top of all that, California now has a super-majority of D’s in the assembly. What does that mean? Well, thanks to a proposition last election that means they can add taxes without a vote. ANy fucking taxes they want. And even if the taxes are so nuts that Jerry F’n Brown would veto them – they can now override that veto. Pay attention to my home state, and see what happens when it all goes tits over teakettle. And it will. Greece on the Pacific. After 11 years of being a news junkie…I’m done. I’m going to build a couple AR’s (while I still can) to keep me busy, shoot a lot of clays, and generally just check out of the news cycle. I just can’t take it anymore. I’m going to be one of those guys that doesn’t even know the name of my congresscritter, but knows the starting roster of the Raiders AND the Niners from memory. I’m going to read science fiction, watch Doctor Who with my kids, and get out into the country whenever I can…and just take care of my family. Fuck all the rest of it.


Comment from Redd
Time: November 8, 2012, 5:11 pm

Epidemic looting in storm affected areas. No surprise there.
Layoffs being announced because business can not afford the costs of obamacare. Again, no surprise.


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: November 8, 2012, 5:41 pm

Actually, this is the second election that made no sense to me. The first was 2000.

We were coming off eight years of the Clintons – and after the impeachment and all, everybody was sick of the Clintons. Al Gore was a deeply creepy and off-putting candidate. Republicans were chewing the scenery waiting to vote the bums out.

…and it was the closest election EVAR? WTF?


Comment from scottthebadger
Time: November 8, 2012, 6:20 pm

There really is a bad smell coming off of this election. I think that things will go sour here when people start looking. Provided that they are allowed to.


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: November 8, 2012, 6:36 pm

Do you really think blue collar Massachusetts Dems voted overwhelmingly for Barney Frank each and every time, for decades? I don’t. I never did.

His sexual orientation aside, he was deeply nasty in his interactions with his constituents and he never wore his freaking teeth. Jeez. Suddenly, they go to change his district and…he bows out.

Many, many years ago, I read an article in something like the New Yorker. Someone volunteered to be a poll watcher in Mass and wrote a long-form piece about it. One of the things his more senior poll watchers showed him was how to lean on the lever at the back of the voting machine to ratchet up the Dem votes — not a lot, just enough for a modest little majority in every polling place. It was written in a haha…political types, what are they like? sort of voice, but it’s stuck with me all these years.


Comment from mojo
Time: November 8, 2012, 6:54 pm

Had four years to jigger the machinery, and Chicago values to encourage them.

Some precincts in Philadelphia went over 99% for Obama. That’s Saddam territory.


Comment from Some Vegetable
Time: November 8, 2012, 7:26 pm

I don’t (sadly) find myself able to cling to the Massive (more than a million votes!) Voter Fraud Theory©…

I accept Stacy’s Cult as a likely explanation but my personal belief is that Romney’s 47 percent who receive without paying are really afraid that the Republicans want to take things away from them. As an example, someone pointed out that something like 40% of babies are born to single mothers. Most of these are dependent on some form of government aid.

They not only need the cash but suspect that the Republicans disapprove of them. Naturally they disapprove of people whom they view as disliking them and wanting to take things away from them.


Comment from Formerly known as Skeptic
Time: November 8, 2012, 7:32 pm

Yeah, well Stoaty, I LIVE in that district and they marched out this time and elected a singularly unqualified and pathetically inexperienced Kennedy over a highly qualified opponent named Sean Bielat (look him up) 61-36! Even worse, MA-6 reelected John Tierney whose wife was convicted and served time for laundering $7 Million through their accounts for her brothers’ gambling operation and he claimed not to know anything about it! I won’t say fraud isn’t a part of it (in MA-6 it may have made the difference) but people in this state are just lost to us!


Comment from Subotai Bahadur
Time: November 8, 2012, 8:07 pm

Stoaty, as I said in a previous thread, I spent the day tracking fraud. It was at previously unseen levels. Mojo above mentioned the 99%+ turnout in Philadelphia precincts. The Democrats and the New Black Panther Party took over between 1-2 dozen polling places in Philadelphia, physically threw out Republican election judges, and declared that no Republicans would be allowed in.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/philly-gop-poll-inspectors-being-ousted-for-dems/article/2512714#.UJvuaGdAOSr

They went to court. I have heard that later they got a court order to be returned, but had to wait for a Sheriff’s Department escort; which may or may not have been furnished by the Democrat local government. I have not heard that they were ever allowed back in.

Now we see that the Black precincts in central Philadelphia had a turn out for Obama that Stalin or Saddam Hussein would approve of, 99%+.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/nation_world/20121108_Vote_was_astronomical_for_Obama_in_some_Philadelphia_wards.html

There were reports in ALL the swing states of touch screen voting machines where the voter hit Romney and it showed a vote for Obama. In every case, it was claimed that the machine was “miscalibrated”; but if it was a matter of calibration, at least some of the false votes should have gone the other way. And it is not hard, apparently to make the screen show a Romney vote, while recording an Obama vote.

Finally, here is a link to sworn testimony by an author of software to hack voting machines.

http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2012/11/programmer-developed-program-to-rig.html

We are not the country or free people we once were. But no one can be sure that his/her vote counts at all any more either.

The Left is going to give the American people what more or less half of them may have voted for; good and hard.

Subotai Bahadur


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: November 8, 2012, 8:11 pm

Sorry about the trip to the spam filter, SB. It was the links wot dunnit.


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: November 8, 2012, 8:14 pm

Now, why it put the message asking me to fish you out of the spam filter into the spam filter (if you follow me), I do not know.


Comment from Brad
Time: November 8, 2012, 8:14 pm

I lean toward the cult of personality + Sandy theory myself.

I wish I knew how to get the ear of someone in the RNC or a big activist organization: what I think needs to be done — not for short term gain but for 4, 8 or 12 years out — is to do some conservative and/or Republican advertising in deep blue areas. Nothing elaborate, and nothing controversial, just positive factoids on a poster in the subway or a 15 second spot on radio, just something to counter the ridiculous stereotypes. Think of it like the VOA type outreach to the Soviet bloc; maybe make a couple people think outside their public education/media/Hollywood indoctrination. The Democrat message is getting out to everyone, and there needs to be some effort to reach areas that don’t get any conservative/libertarian/Republican viewpoint.


Comment from Formerly known as Skeptic
Time: November 8, 2012, 8:19 pm

No SB, the article you linked does NOT say turnout was 99%. It says 99% of the vote went to Obama in almost purely black neighborhoods. It specifically says later in the article that turnout was about 60%.


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: November 8, 2012, 8:21 pm

Brad, you are SO right. This has been a hobbyhorse of mine for years.

I understand that money is tight and every penny goes where it will do most good in an election year, but it’s very short-sighted. Even the bluest of blue states needs to hear alternative viewpoints.

Staunch righty that I am, living behind blue lines frequently got me down. And, while I understood it, when the party acted like it didn’t care if I voted or not…well, it stung. It was an effort to drag myself to the polls election after election.

So the stuff I voted for went down 25/75. Maybe if the dissenters were a little more enthused, righty causes would only fail 40/60. And then maybe, when conditions were just right, they might prevail sometimes.

I remind you that the bluest of states will elect a deep red governor surprisingly often. Don Carcieri was a damn good conservative governor in RI for a couple of terms.


Comment from Tibby
Time: November 8, 2012, 8:24 pm

I think it’s massive voter fraud. Our country has been hijacked. I keep seeing different small mentions of this on individual blogs, saying that it’s going to hit the news, and then it/they seem disappear. Once or twice I can shrug off, but I’ve seen mention at least 8 to 10 separate times. The different places I can remember were in Houston, Chicago, Philly, one of the Florida precincts that I can’t remember the name of and somewhere in Ohio that I can’t remember either.

I know, I know, get me my hat…


Comment from Subotai Bahadur
Time: November 8, 2012, 8:27 pm

Comment from Formerly known as Skeptic
Time: November 8, 2012, 8:19 pm

Those black neighborhoods were the ones which were taken over, and that is what I was referring to. One side takes over the polling place, removes normal supervision, and then does the equivalent of stuffing the ballot box.

Human beings do not vote 99%+ for anything. That is in a range that is prima facie fraud.

I am not saying the whole city was 99%+.

Subotai Bahadur


Comment from BuckNutty
Time: November 8, 2012, 10:11 pm

Voter fraud. No doubt about it. They didn’t have a single indicator in their favor and they won? Not likely.


Comment from Formerly known as Skeptic
Time: November 8, 2012, 10:18 pm

SB, won’t argue with you on that point. Your terminology had me thinking you were suggesting 99+% TURNOUT, as in ALL registered voters voted which is an even more obvious indicator of fraud (and has been seen before, in fact >100% has been seen before).


Comment from David Gillies
Time: November 8, 2012, 11:03 pm

I don’t think it was fraud, at least not to the extent it tipped the scales. I think it was a combination of low-information voters, Sandy and a superior Dem GOTV effort. The upside of all this is that Obama now completely owns the mess he’s created. The economy is disastrous, and it’s going to get worse. There is going to be a foreign policy catastrophe, possibly a mass casualty attack on US soil. And you know what? It still probably won’t make a difference the next time. Another four years will give the Gramscians free rein to entrench themselves even further. To rig the game by paying off the parasites. To punish the makers and reward the takers. And then it starts to unravel. The really productive will simply go on strike. Let’s see what Obama’s worshippers do when their EBD cards don’t work any more. When there’s no money to pay their gold-plated pensions. When the tax base collapses because no one has a real job anymore. You want Obama? Fine, have him. It is wicked to indulge folly. Those who didn’t vote for him: sauve qui peut. The rest of you? You can get fucked.


Comment from Scubafreak
Time: November 8, 2012, 11:52 pm

Apparently, a number of precincts in Colorado have found that the number of votes cast outnumbers the number of Registered voters by around 40%. If this holds true for the rest of the swing states, then Obama is in illegal and illegitimate President.


Comment from Scubafreak
Time: November 8, 2012, 11:55 pm

More hard evidence of massive vote fraud.

http://weaselzippers.us/2012/11/08/philly-polling-stations-where-gop-inspectors-were-kicked-out-had-90-voter-turnout-99-voted-for-obama/


Comment from Elphaba
Time: November 9, 2012, 1:19 am

I’m going with voter fraud, apathy and blissful ignorance. More than half of the nation are intellectually lazy and morally bankrupt. It’s a perfect storm of suck. I hope the lefties get a financially lethal dose of their own medicine. Already, I’m hearing whining about newly-issued pink slips or hours cut back below full time (oh noes! no insurance?!). The schadenfreude is kickin’ in.


Comment from Feynmangroupie
Time: November 9, 2012, 2:15 am

The Husband’s parents were convinced that Romney was EEEEEE-VILLE and was going to eliminate their SS/Medicare benefits. They were ashamed that their son was voting Republican. He sent them an exhaustingly long essay, with news-clippings, and statistics, showing why Leftists have been the downfall of the US, and that FDR was the worst of them all. Believe it or not, they were Republicans until Reagan.

Last time he called, his father answered the phone (which he never does) and they chatted (which they never do), because This essay made his mother cry, and she had started crying again when she heard that it was her son on the phone.


Comment from Oceania
Time: November 9, 2012, 2:43 am

Are you sure about that Scube? Seriously?


Comment from Oceania
Time: November 9, 2012, 2:54 am

Oh I see SCA summed it up nicely:

” Are you f**king retarded? Blacks, unions and spics vote Dem regardless of what they have done wrong.. Jesse Jr. got elected and he’s in a nut house.. And in NYC Vito LOpez got re-elected after groping women and paying off bribes to shut them up..:


Comment from EZnSF
Time: November 9, 2012, 2:58 am

Rip VanBull is right.

There are two types of democrats.
The pig ignorant, and lying-cheating-theives.

Those who voted for O are pig ignorant and they voted in lying, cheating, thieves.


Comment from beasn
Time: November 9, 2012, 3:23 am

I’m going with fraud and a touch of the gimmes. Massive fraud in Assachewz-its…over 100% voter turnout in most wards…Same shit in PA. I have no doubt if those 5 swing states were recounted, things would look a lot different.

When obama and co. started tweeting their followers not to worry about the early returns……I grew very suspicious. Especially after all the reports of people hitting the screen for Romney and Obama kept popping up instead. Who is to say that each time that happened, it wasn’t counted. Electronic ballots too ripe for foul play.

And then registration for military was down 73% and many ballots went missing? Yeeahhh. Barky knows the military knows he don’t particularly have their back.

Look at Venezeula. Chavez’ opponent was polling higher. Chavez pulls a million votes out his ass to win. Conditions have gotten beyond worse down there, you can’t tell me those people like it or the guy who is giving it to them, hard.

And I think the GOP is in on it. They are quite disinterested in the whole matter. ..from voter ID, on. Not to mention their dislike for conservatives. They abandoned them.


Comment from beasn
Time: November 9, 2012, 3:27 am

I like the ink on the finger thing. Make all voting on one day. None of the early voting.

Or go modern with a thumbprint scan.


Comment from sandman will resist
Time: November 9, 2012, 3:35 am

Okay here’s what happened in a nutshell:

The Dems never closed Barky’s campaign orifices after 08. Essentially the turd king has been in campaign mode ever since he first announced.

The company that services the voting machine software has deep links to George Soros. Several times in my state,NC, and in my mountain county, electronic voting machines reliably flipped Mitt votes to Barky. Never heard of an single time where it went the other way. IN poker, that’s called a ‘tell’: an obvious cheat that gets seen.
That computer “glitch” also occurred several times in Oiho and battleground states. North Carolina jumped on it early and we got a new Rethuglican Guv and Rep out of the vote. We went for Mitt by 3 points and change. So in a state Barky won by 14,000 votes in 08, this sudden change and voter surge should have made us tighter. They refused to call the race for hours but the Mitt lead set in and stuck. We weren’t cheated here.

There is a program called Narwhal, using Google maps and Iphone technology and the like that allows for super-sharp voter outreach. The boffins in the Dems ranks found it, tweaked it and ran on it. The stuff was not ready for flight by ’10 and the Dems prolly wouldn’t have shown their hand for the midterms anyway. But they might have done this 2 years ago if all the cheats were in place.

The electorate, thanks to tv, MFM and schools, is chuckleheaded, low info and drone dumb. They want their MTV so to speak and they voted their vested gubmint interests. They were not targeted by Narwhal cause they vote reliably out of selfishness and shallowness of character. Why waste time? Same for the birth control floozies and the gay voting block: they stay near the campfire all the time, so why go looking for them? Same for the ethnic groups and the celebrities who are human cancer cells.

IN summation: we had the numbers, and alot of the votes were flipped, lost or not counted. The technology exists to tap reluctant voters, early voting lends itself to cheating and some Republican watchers are borderline dems who hang in right wing and moderate groups like flies on the wall. They provide the insider dirt on ground floor republican ops and insight into where the Dems have to maneuver to beat the Repubs down. The Dems are now closer to the East German Stazi or the Gestapo than the Dems of Johnson or Kennedy. Today’s ‘lib’ is yesterday’s ‘hardline commie bastard’.

And that, along with a piss poor minority outreach and an honorable but stiff candidate got our collective asses handed to us.

For the record, Allen West is suing for a recount, and has asked the machines be impounded. Expect the casde to be dealt with quickly, and all those pesky votes will just be gross totals, and the individual votes deleted. Hard to follow a missing path, huh?


Comment from beasn
Time: November 9, 2012, 3:46 am

The upside of all this is that Obama now completely owns the mess he’s created

Um, no, a majority still say it’s Bush’s fault. Seriously.


Comment from sandman will resist
Time: November 9, 2012, 3:47 am

PLus, totals were down but there were more voters than ever at most places and just in Florida they kept the poles open longer each day and even on Saturday night and into Sunday and Monday.

Barky’s folks were dpressed and required narwhal and pushing to get out the vote. Still lost 10M of em.

Folks I never met in 30 years in active conservative voting were out, voting, volunteering and knocking on doors for months…yet he got less than human place mat Juam MCCainez got in 08? Bigger crowds and lines but less than 00 or n04 for Boosh?

Makes no damned sense from the outside looking in. It stinks like a skunk’s rear end, it does…


Comment from beasn
Time: November 9, 2012, 3:48 am

Sandman, wasn’t it a company in Spain that counted the absentee ballots? A company owned by a big Barry supporter?

And the GOP is curiously uninterested.


Comment from sandman will resist
Time: November 9, 2012, 4:00 am

Someone please explain that:
Lines were longer, crowds bigger, hours longer and “enthusiasm” was roundly up yet Mitt’s number were reportedly down even from MCCain’s anemic counts from ’08?

Barky’s numbers were down 10m from ’08 even with lower enthusiasm and bad numbers. Which makes sense,even as his very fractured ‘coalition’ somehow came out in just enough numbers to push Barky over the top, very closely, in just the right places, to get the needed advantage.

Smells like raw shiite to me. For the record.

Empirical evidence would suggest longer lines benefit one or the other but both sides were supposedly down? Sounds like someone arranged for the Republican side to take a dive to the canvas without a punch getting thrown or the Republican side in on the dive.

Translation: the fix was in, baked in, and will just get bigger unless we on the right get up to speed, correct our glaring deficiencies and get a handle on impartial 3rd party voting software that gets system tested by both sides of the aisle prior to running. No transparency with a stacked deck…


Comment from Scubafreak
Time: November 9, 2012, 4:04 am

And it’s official. the Democrat campaign to disenfranchise the Military Absentee’s is directly responsible for Obama’s win.

http://beforeitsnews.com/military/2012/11/military-absentee-ballots-delivered-one-day-late-would-have-swung-election-for-romney-2446626.html


Comment from sandman will resist
Time: November 9, 2012, 4:08 am

Beasn, you are correct,sir.

And that Eurotrash company has deep EU ties to…(drumroll)…George Soros.

And that, right there, is what got votes for Mitt to go to Barky. Unless the machine was run through the same steps repeatedly, only then would the vote come out for Mitt as intended.

However, not once that I know of, did a Barky vote have to recast numerous times to get an intended vote for Barky to stick.

It screams set up and scam. No two ways about it.


Comment from sandman will resist
Time: November 9, 2012, 4:10 am

I forgot to mention the deliberate disenfranchisement of the military vote. Sadly, the Federal Mail delivered them too late for voting to count.

Almost like it was done on purpose or something.

P’sha…


Comment from Oceania
Time: November 9, 2012, 4:12 am

I believe that Sweasel deleted that link earlier
:)

Sounds like your country is FUCKED!


Comment from catnip
Time: November 9, 2012, 4:19 am

There’s always been voter fraud, always will be until better ways are found to foil it.

To libertarian/conservative Republicans paying attention, Romney was too much of a flip-flopper to trust, and many of them stayed home. To the celebrity worshippers, he was a cypher, visible only in debates (which they don’t watch) or at campaign rallies (which they don’t attend, unless a popular entertainer is present.) Refusing to grant TV interviews was an enormous mistake because the news media and late-nite shows trashed him, and he screwed himself out of a decent opportunity to counteract their lies.


Comment from sandman will resist
Time: November 9, 2012, 4:20 am

Sickens me to think about it. But the thought that the misery I expect and am prepared for will shock and devastate the nanny-staters and bottom of the pile handout ranks utterly pleases me.

I hunt, I fish. I lost a finger, mauled the other three, lost lots of blood and went to work from my hospital bed the next day. I can gut and skin things, and I mean anything. I don’t live in a vertical box in the teeming city. And I bend my knee only to God, no man: none.

Certainly not the Mulatto Dictator.

Bring on the collapse and the misery: I can take it and thrive. The sooner the better to weed out the weak and get things reset, if God even wants them reset.

At this point, I can see why He might opt to see the curtain ring down and tie up loose ends.

That’s above my pay grade…


Comment from Subotai Bahadur
Time: November 9, 2012, 4:21 am

Comment from Oceania
Time: November 9, 2012, 4:12 am

Sounds like your country is FUCKED!

Yeah, it is so bad that I actually find myself agreeing with you of all bloody people. However, if all rules are off, it does give us all a certain freedom of action in dealing with those we do not like.

Subotai Bahadur


Comment from sandman will resist
Time: November 9, 2012, 4:24 am

G’nite, Wease and folks:

The next time let’s all talk about chooks and what gauge strings to run on a lefty acoustic gee-tar.

Cause I are going lefty in a few weeks or so. Not got any other option.

Seez ya…


Comment from Claire
Time: November 9, 2012, 4:35 am

Yeah….
As your adopted people would say: Funny, that…


Comment from J.S.Bridges
Time: November 9, 2012, 5:09 am

“I don’t (sadly) find myself able to cling to the Massive (more than a million votes!) Voter Fraud Theory©…”

Problem with that viewpoint, Some Veg, et.al., is that when you take a close look at what is/was actually required, it comes down to substantially less than “Massive” – as in, a strategically-applied amount of roughly 50,000 – 60,000 “flipped” votes per vital swing-state (which means, of course, a net shift of 100,000 – 120,000 votes; 50K – 60K fewer R/R votes, same amount more O/B votes) would be sufficient to do the job – especially if coupled to simply discarding (i.e., failing to register/count) a certain smaller percentage of R/R votes, thereby reducing the overall total vote just enough -

My area is not in software design/engineering – but I know just enough about that area to know that it is, indeed, possible to devise a way to do just what I outlined above, given electronic voting machines on which to run it, and it wouldn’t (if done in a fairly-sophisticated manner) even require complicity on the part of those given nominal custody of the machines. All part of the program; nothing to see here, move along, step lively, now…

As I posted in a similar context elsewhere (over at Daily Pundit, my most-common blogging-grounds):

I am not notably given to “conspiracy theories” re: Election phenomena – however…

Ockham’s Razor The Magic Eight-Ball sez: Strategic Vote Fraud Explains All

Show me – please show me – how that cannot be the explanation for what we have just seen…

All – all – indications, everywhere, aside from certain “polls” that were, when examined a bit, quite clearly heavily-biased towards the Democraps’ side, were favoring a Barry Beat-Down of near-epic proportions – yet, this is the outcome?!?

Substantially heavier-than-usual voter turnouts, with long lines and long waits, repeatedly reported, plus other repeated reports of heavy absentee-ballots and the greatly-increased early voting in many-many States – and yet, the ultimate popular-vote totals show substantially lower turnout/participation than four years ago?!?

If that isn’t a portrait of “strategically-applied” vote fraud, then pray, tell me what it is instead?


Comment from francis
Time: November 9, 2012, 5:43 am

I was aghast at Romney’s loss, and initally blamed it on a ginormous case of the gimmies. But on further reflection, I think Romney was more damaged than we had assessed. I don’t think there was signifigantly more corruption than usual; and remember, no state poll had Romney winning the really needed swing states. I do think likability and relatability factor in much more with low information voters than we had thought, much more than we’d like, especially when we have such smart guys on our side. But I think O managed to make Romney = Scrooge McDuck stick, and I don’t think Romney managed to deflect that, or really make the failing economy stick to Obama. I also think that while Romney was an ace on the details, he never managed to piece together a real vision, something inspiring beyond “Not Obama”. That didn’t work for Kerry, either.

I also think the Republicans are a deeply damaged brand. Between the last several years of the Bush administration and the rapey nutjobs, we have a long way to go.

But I do think there is a lot of comparison to 2004. The younger, more relaxed and relatable candidate beat out the stuffy old rich dude. Actually, that’s true as far back as 1992. I just hope the RNC takes that into account when we go looking for our next candidate. I like Romney (a lot, actually, I’ve always been a fan), but I think likability plays a lot more into the whole thing than I did last week, and as much as I loathe the idea of picking a guy for such superficial traits, I’m starting to think superficially charming + a little smarts wins elections.


Comment from Oceania
Time: November 9, 2012, 7:04 am

The real reason – is that 1/3 of you didn’t vote.

Democracy?


Comment from Mike C.
Time: November 9, 2012, 7:37 am

I’ll venture a much simpler, if more dire, analysis. The Free Shirt Army has finally attained the majority. It’s not like this wasn’t predicted over two centuries ago. Was there fraud? Of course there was. So what? Once the Free Shit Army outnumbers everybody else, it’s game, set, match.

I don’t look good in tinfoil. To quote a fellow Virginian…

“Mr. President, it is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it.”

Patrick Henry, at St. John’s Church, Richmond, Virginia, March 23, 1775


Comment from Oceania
Time: November 9, 2012, 9:37 am

Indeed a disparaging situation. It isn’t like I haven’t been bitching on and on about it for how many years?
It is like a train wreck in slow motion.


Comment from Oh Hell
Time: November 9, 2012, 1:09 pm

I think it was a combination of massive fraud (to easy to make a computerized voting machine do your bidding) and a lot of the whining, gimmee, freebie crowd + lots of dead people voting and lots of Military votes that were tossed out (or they just never received their ballots). BO has his stickly little fingers in power and his puppet masters aren’t going to let it go easily. The a$$ ki$$ing in the local newspaper is disgusting.


Comment from Mel
Time: November 9, 2012, 1:27 pm

Wretchard at Belmont Club recommends defiance/mocking.
It would be wonderful if you would reissue your “I’m the wiener” T-shirt with Obama as a hot dog–just with the Nobel Prize pic removed.
I’m sure it would sell thousands.


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: November 9, 2012, 1:36 pm

Oh, definitely, Mel. Mockery and defiance are right up my alley (now with added bitter edge!). I’ll be back ‘shopping my black heart out (with any luck, in time to hoover up some Christmas bucks).

I just have to take a week or two away from politics to lick my wounds. Never engage the enemy while he’s doing his victory lap. You won’t get anywhere, and it makes you look small.


Comment from Some Vegetable
Time: November 9, 2012, 2:24 pm

Hmmmm which of your Barry pics would go best with the caption,

“Quit Your Bitchin’ YOU voted for him”

?


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Comment from Formerly known as Skeptic
Time: November 10, 2012, 1:41 pm

Scube (4:04 am), The source for that story is the Duffleblog which is the military equivalent of the Onion. When parody gets too close to truth it is sometime indistinguishable.


Comment from RosalindJ
Time: November 11, 2012, 1:20 am

Hi. I’ve just meandered over here after a few days of not watching news. Books are a happily re-discovered country.

I think there was Chicago-style voter fraud at a national level.


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: November 11, 2012, 1:57 am

Hello, RosalindJ. Welcome to the good ship Everybody Else can Fuck off and Die.


Comment from Rich Rostrom
Time: November 12, 2012, 11:32 pm

I judged election here in Chicago. I did absentee voting in two nursing homes and a precinct on Election Day.
I don’t see the fraud. The training for judges was very rigorous.

What I see is an immense number of ignorant voters who are reflexive Democrats, or manipulated by the mass media which are now overwhelmingly leftists.


Comment from Sockless Joe
Time: November 13, 2012, 1:09 am

Fraud? Yes.

Enough to turn any particular state? No. Not even close to that much fraud.

Folks need to realize ‘Merica ain’t what it used to be.

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