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I was going to soldier on and post something in my usual vein, but that felt all kinds of wrong.

So. Shut up it is, then.

One thought. Ace is on about something that I’ve been saying for years: if you want less of this kind of thing, watch your language (I’m looking at you, media). Stop describing these shooters as evil and monsters. They love that shit. This is exactly what the mass-murderer wanted, and what his imitators want. To be a huge scary monster. To be a horrible, shocking beast.

Not a loser. Not somebody who couldn’t make friends or get a good job or keep a girl. Honest to god, these guys think what they do makes them rockstars. The dead kids are just props on his stage.

I guarantee you, there are people sitting home tonight watching the news and thinking, “yes. I want some of that. That’s just how I want to go out.”

Comments


Comment from SSAF
Time: December 14, 2012, 10:46 pm

If it bleeds, it leads. That is all these bastages know and value.

I doubt if media or gov’t (it is getting harder to tell them apart) have any interest in lessening the casualty count.

Other than these 2 points, i concur with Her Stoatness.


Comment from My Sharia Moor
Time: December 14, 2012, 11:10 pm

Well said, stoat.

A masterpiece, from the Onion, of all places.

Pretty much sums up my entire take on this atrocity.


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: December 14, 2012, 11:12 pm

Fuck off, Oceania. You do not amuse me this evening.


Comment from Oceania
Time: December 14, 2012, 11:14 pm

Then I suggest that you look up two word in the Oxford dictionary.
Genocide, followed by the word Hypocrisy.


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: December 14, 2012, 11:15 pm

At least you spelled “hypocrisy” right. If you’re a little weak on the definition of genocide.


Comment from My Sharia Moor
Time: December 14, 2012, 11:17 pm

I have this theory that oceania is actually Kathy Griffin’s soiled, fetid sanitary napkin.

And yes, I can show my work.


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: December 14, 2012, 11:25 pm

Do you know, I’ve allowed 700 Oceania comments? My dashboard tells me so. Generous, me.


Comment from Oceania
Time: December 14, 2012, 11:26 pm

I wonder how many of your readers have killed babies also?


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: December 14, 2012, 11:27 pm

Needy troll is needy.


Comment from My Sharia Moor
Time: December 14, 2012, 11:29 pm

Do you know, I’ve allowed 700 Oceania comments? My dashboard tells me so. Generous, me.

Perhaps oceania is mistaking your generosity for some perverted form of sexual attraction.

In which case, my reaction is, “Eeeeewwwww!”


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: December 14, 2012, 11:31 pm

I suspect such an experienced troll would find it trivial to get past an IP block or I’d give it a try. It is being very boring tonight.


Comment from Oceania
Time: December 14, 2012, 11:32 pm

An experience troll would take down your website!


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: December 14, 2012, 11:33 pm

Silly. You can’t troll a dead website.


Comment from Christopher Taylor
Time: December 14, 2012, 11:33 pm

I think its indicative of how awful and dead a point we are in our culture that being called a monster and morally evil is an attraction to a significant portion of the population. If the best we can do is call them dorks… well, you draw your own conclusions.


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: December 14, 2012, 11:36 pm

Also, being famous is worth whatever you have to do to get there.


Comment from PatAZ
Time: December 15, 2012, 12:50 am

You are a much better weasel than I would be if I were one, to tolerate some of the trash that comes from oceania. He/she/it seems to thrive on shock and awe.


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: December 15, 2012, 1:12 am

Oh, it’s not tolerance, Pat. It’s limitation. It’s generally not a good idea to get into a pissing contest with a troll; the methods at my disposal to block him are pathetically weak. For that reason, if he keeps a reasonably civil tongue in his head, I let his posts stand.

I’ve biffed 15 of his love letters tonight, though.


Comment from Gromulin
Time: December 15, 2012, 2:44 am

A very Catholic friend posted this on FB this evening:

1. There is no god
2. The same entity we pray/thank that our children did not die today is the same entity that took someone else’s child away
3. There is no plan
4. There is only chaos, random fate and the madness of humanity
5. Our country will continue to produce random (mostly male) nut jobs, who will find whatever guns they need and whatever unprotected place they choose full of innocent people to slaughter for some unfathomable reason
6. And nothing can/will be done about it
7. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!

I might only add that it not just guns, but bombs and knives and arson also, but makes no difference.

It’s the sanest thing I’ve read today.


Comment from dissent555
Time: December 15, 2012, 3:38 am

Evil has always been with us. And always will be.

Sorry that our iPads and best wishes will not banish it from human existence. Evolution will not cure the human condition. Tonight we should just shut up and grieve with these poor people.


Comment from QuasiModo
Time: December 15, 2012, 4:48 am

I was bicycling out to the mailboxes to get the mail this morning and a large flock of geese flew past overhead…very weird for mid-December…felt like a bad omen. That was probably around when all this was happening.


Comment from SSAF
Time: December 15, 2012, 5:05 am

@Gromulin,
if I can quote Sam Langhorne Clemens from memory, his list looked somewhat similar to this one:

1) there is a God
2) He/she made his/hers will known
3) He/she selected me to communicate it to you
4) We will now pass the collection plate
5) Those of you who fail to subscribe will surely be damned.

That’s awful about the CT deal and I cannot bring myself to read about it. Yet I am certain that somewhere another loser is already laying plans on how to outperform.

I had no idea that Dame Stoat experiences boredom. Very unweasel-like, that.


Comment from Some Vegetable
Time: December 15, 2012, 5:09 am

Evil has always walked among us, and always will. History has shown us that we have no choice but to fight it, and keep fighting it. However bad things seem, they can get worse. We must believe that the world really is becoming a better place although it’s hard to see it and harder to prove it on any given day.

It is our fate and our duty, even as horrible things like this happen, to continue slouching towards Jerusalem as best we can.


Comment from Christopher Taylor
Time: December 15, 2012, 5:54 am

If there’s no God… there’s no such thing as evil, just alternate choices you don’t care for. Demanding God act and plan exactly the way you prefer is just silly.


Comment from Mike C.
Time: December 15, 2012, 9:34 am

Anybody here old enough to remember back when we locked up loonies instead of letting them run loose?

Of course, that was a bad thing to do… Now we either let them run loose, elect them to high office, or give them high-paying jobs in the MSM.

Oh, and Stotie? If you have to shit-can 15 comments from a single poster in one thread, it’s time to flush the toilet (to use an analogy.)


Comment from jic
Time: December 15, 2012, 11:02 am

“A masterpiece, from the Onion, of all places. Pretty much sums up my entire take on this atrocity.”

It starts out pretty good, then ends up exactly like you would expect from The Onion.

On Stoaty/Ace’s point, I have mixed feelings. On one hand I’ve long suspected the same thing: that the idea of being remembered for decades as an Evil Monster is the main attraction for the sort of people who do things like this, and we shouldn’t feed their sad fantasies. On the other, I really don’t know how to describe somebody who would do something like this as anything other than an evil monster.


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: December 15, 2012, 12:31 pm

Heh. And I’ve just rendered that comment meaningless by sweeping up, jic.

I think if we added “pathetic loser” to the “evil monster” bit, we could cover all our bases.


Comment from jic
Time: December 15, 2012, 12:33 pm

I understand why you deleted Oceania’s last couple of comments, but could you please delete my last comment too? It just looks weird out there by itself. And yes, I know, I shouldn’t have fed the troll…


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: December 15, 2012, 12:42 pm

Done. Ordinarily, I leave his comments up and let people kick him around if they like. I don’t observe the usual troll protocol. But this is usually a light and fluffy blog so he can’t get up to much mischief. I couldn’t let him gloat in the middle of tragedy like that.


Comment from Shifty1
Time: December 15, 2012, 12:51 pm

@ oceania:
“I wonder how many of your readers have killed babies also?”

Unfortunately…not your mom!


Comment from Some Vegetable
Time: December 15, 2012, 2:11 pm

“What the hell are you getting so upset about?”, he asked bewilderly in a tone of contritive amusement. ” I thought you didn’t believe in God”. “I don’t”, she said, bursting violently into tears. “But the God I don’t believe in is a good God, a just God, a merciful God. He’s not the mean and stupid God you make Him out to be”.

Yossarian laughed and released her arms. “Let’s have a little more religious freedom between us. You don’t believe in the God you want to and I won’t believe in the God I want to. Is that a deal?”

Joseph Heller

Catch 22


Comment from Mrs Compton
Time: December 15, 2012, 4:02 pm

Thanks Ms Weasel, there is just a time when ‘their’ shit just doesn’t need to be looked at. Their “when to stop” social skill didn’t get installed.


Comment from Nina
Time: December 15, 2012, 4:20 pm

Completely agree.


Comment from AltBBrown
Time: December 15, 2012, 8:55 pm

Ah, to spend the holidays boning up on your spam blocking software. Anyhoo…
The Hungry Santa cards from Zazzle came in yesterday. Very impressive coloring!
Just gotta come up w/ a short list of recipients w/ a sense of humor.


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: December 15, 2012, 10:30 pm

Good to hear, AltB. I don’t often order any of my own products, on account of the eye-watering postal charges.


Comment from pst314
Time: December 15, 2012, 10:58 pm

Dean Ing wrote about this years ago in his story Very Proper Charlies: When reporting on terrorists and terrorism, always portray the terrorists as ignorant, stupid, foolish, clumsy, incompetent, less-than-men: That’s not the sort of publicity they want.


Comment from AltBBrown
Time: December 16, 2012, 12:38 am

Re: notoriety…
I seem to remember a tale of an innovative police chief in Saigon many moons ago. They’d captured a local VC leader and he refused to talk, even with a gun to his head, knowing they had no problem shooting him. The chief advised him that, yes, they were going to kill him, if he didn’t give up the info. He would be held down and run over by a truck. The local papers would be notified of his death as an accident in which the victim was backed over by a trash truck. Hardly a hero’s death for a man of his stature and reputation. He blabbed.


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: December 16, 2012, 1:08 am

Not in bed yet, O my troll. We keep late hours, Chez Weasel.


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: December 16, 2012, 1:21 am

And I’m fast.


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: December 16, 2012, 1:26 am

Dude. Chill.


Comment from Redd
Time: December 16, 2012, 3:20 am

She sees you when you’re sleeping
She knows when you’re awake
She knows if you’ve been bad or good
So be good for goodness sake!


Comment from scr_north
Time: December 16, 2012, 6:55 am

In the case of these types of murders the murderer, if captured alive they should be given a short trial and if found guilty handed over to the shrinks for a couple of weeks of study. Then they should be taken out and executed and buried in an unmarked grave. No publicity, no reporting, no coverage at all except to note that they have been executed. Let them become just a footnote in history and have as short a possible google entry. Even if it causes only a few of these crazies to eat a bullet alone rather than gun down some innocents it will be worth the ACLU challenges.


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: December 16, 2012, 12:16 pm

Oceania, I have your posts going into the holding pen. You get over your Tourettes, let me know.


Comment from Gibby Haynes
Time: December 16, 2012, 5:19 pm

What happens when Oceania’s posts run out of fuel? Do they just fall out of the sky? Maybe we should get Bruce Willis on the blower. Maybe he could light some fires and get Oceania’s comments down safely.

‘Scuse me, I’m off to watch Die Hard 2 nao.


Comment from Mike James
Time: December 16, 2012, 6:21 pm

It might be Tourette’s, although in the end he’ll probably have a whole new disorder described and named after him. Pray it doesn’t happen after he walks into a classroom with a firearm.


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: December 16, 2012, 7:57 pm

Sorry about the trip to the filter, Gibby. Hope I didn’t set my net too wide.

If they aren’t too foamy, I’ll release them. I don’t want to get into a pissing contest. My ability to control his posts is too weak, and it’s no fun fending off an angry comment maggot intent on making life a misery.

On the other hand, I couldn’t leave his triumphant, happy posts about Sandy Hook. That would (quite rightly) have readers galloping away in herds.


Comment from AltBBrown
Time: December 16, 2012, 11:10 pm

Geez, you really ARE annoying, O/c/b*!!!!
Didn’t you have any toys as a child?


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: December 17, 2012, 12:28 am

See? It’s trivially easy to brush past my controls (sorry to make you look like you’re talking to yourself, AltB). That’s why I avoided getting into a pissing contest. At least this IP gives a clue about his ISP, but that’s a road I’d rather not start down.

So I guess whack-a-mole it is for a while and hope he gets bored eventually.


Comment from JuliaM
Time: December 17, 2012, 5:41 am

“Anybody here old enough to remember back when we locked up loonies instead of letting them run loose?”

Yes. But…you need to define ‘loonie’. The mother of this latest killer seems to have had some very odd ideas indeed. But should they be illegal?


Comment from Allen
Time: December 17, 2012, 8:36 am

Ya know, I’ve made a lot of dumb ass comments here over the years.

But, who the hell revels in this kind of miasma? The only type I can think of is the next perp.

Some men need to be hanged, hang ‘em high Ma’am.


Comment from AltBBrown
Time: December 17, 2012, 10:15 am

PITA for you though, Sweas.
Ya gotta have better things to do for Christmas season.


Comment from Oceania
Time: December 17, 2012, 10:30 am

The trouble with ISPs is that you never know who’s door you might be knocking on. Your laws are not our laws. Inf act, you don’t appear to have any laws at all? Or Morals?
Lets look at some of your recent satellites.

[long strings of pointless data snipped]


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: December 17, 2012, 11:38 am

Well, from a cursory look, it would appear your terms of service are pretty strict. How’s about you be a good troll and color inside the lines and we don’t need to go there, hm?


Comment from Redd
Time: December 17, 2012, 2:20 pm

No surprise that the douchebag is oblivious to his similarities to Adam Lanza.


Comment from David Gillies
Time: December 17, 2012, 4:16 pm

It’s been pointed out, but bears repeating, that the worst school massacre in US history wasn’t carried out by disaffected teens with heads full of gangsta rap and violent video games, or a socially-inept Asperger’s fruitcake, but by a school board official with a stash of high explosives. And it was in 1927.

The Left are in full-on shroud-waving mode at the moment, as usual. Never miss the chance to exploit a tragedy. This sort of thing is grist to their mill. There aren’t really any ‘lessons’ to be drawn from this, at least any others than the old familiar ones that there is evil in the world, that random, horrible things happen for no good reason to innocent people, and that there will always be a tension between freedom and safety. Pre-emptively locking up everyone who is a bit weird would be a catastrophic injustice; banning certain sorts of guns or even guns in general won’t work; it’s nearly impossible to get past sentiment and emotion to derive hard, statistics-led policy. Mass shootings are declining in frequency. The US is less violent than it was ten and twenty years ago, and less violent than most so-called ‘enlightened’ European countries (e.g. Finland and Luxembourg, and a fortiori the UK, which is by some measures the most violent developed nation in the world.) If black-on-black handgun homicide is stripped out of the mix, then rates in the US are broadly comparable to other countries and lower than many. For pointing this out I’ve already been accused of being heartless and lacking in compassion. But hard cases make bad law, and laws passed in the aftermath of tragedies have an almost perfect track-record of being ill thought-out, ineffective, overbearing and counter-productive.


Comment from Wolfus Aurelius
Time: December 17, 2012, 4:17 pm

I haven’t read anything about the CT school shooting. But from other such stories, like the Aurora shooter, it seems obvious to me. Had there been ONE teacher with a CCW, just one, perhaps a former Marine, our death toll would be approximately 3: Loser’s Mom, one student — the one which would have alerted our Marine — and Loser himself. Much better than 27, no?

Once upon a time in America, our Marine would have been lauded as a hero, and no attention would have been paid to Loser beyond the necessary burying in an unmarked grave. But in a country where people who should be emptying wastebaskets and shining shoes are in charge of “security,” it’s obvious the Bizarros have taken over.


Comment from mojo
Time: December 17, 2012, 4:51 pm

If you believe that someone who shoots his mother, then kills a bunch of innocent six-year-olds, will obey the law you want to pass, you ARE an idiot.


Comment from Christopher Taylor
Time: December 17, 2012, 5:05 pm

The next time some jackass leftist claims the right to bear arms strictly interpreted means muskets, I’ll ask them if they would think it was okay if the shooter killed kids with a musket.


Comment from Bob Mulroy
Time: December 17, 2012, 5:30 pm

I had the son every dad wants, and he became a squirrelly misfire after a TBA. I’ve ended up working with lots of kids just like him. They OBSESS about guns.

We work on life skills and planning over and over.


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: December 17, 2012, 5:36 pm

TBA?


Comment from David Gillies
Time: December 17, 2012, 5:56 pm

Traumatic brain accident. Usually TBI (traumatic brain injury).


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: December 17, 2012, 6:13 pm

Oh. I’m so sorry, Bob. That’s rough duty.


Comment from Bob Mulroy
Time: December 17, 2012, 7:00 pm

Yes, TBI. He’s earning his own money and paying his own way now. (for the most part) It’s been rocky getting there.


Comment from Some Vegetable
Time: December 17, 2012, 8:52 pm

Would now be a good time to remind those on the left that our current government is responsible for getting hundreds of illegal guns to criminals and drug lords who (to date) have killed hundreds of people with them?

If they respond at all to that, just say “when guns are illegal only criminals with government connections will have guns”. Then walk away; the conversation will be over anyhow.

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