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We set fire to a gypsy. You?

“April is a big month for anti-government and right-wing individuals. There’s the Columbine anniversary, there’s Hitler’s birthday, there’s the Oklahoma City bombing, the assault on the Branch Davidian compound in Waco.”

–NPR’s Dina Temple-Raston, speculating that the Boston Marathon bombers were home grown (before the Tsarnaev brothers started shooting up the place, obviously).

Okay. Wow. Let’s take those in reverse order. “…the assault on the Branch Davidian compound in Waco…” was a really horrible episode in our history, in which a house full of religious nutcases were burned alive by federal agents for no good reason. It did indeed horrify all kinds of people, and someone out on the “here be dragons” fringe of the right did indeed retaliate with the Oklahoma City bombing. Which is a desperate embarrassment to the third or so of the country that is in the mainstream right and has been used as a stick to beat us for twenty years. It is not a day for celebration in any way, shape or form.

But…wait…dear lord, Hitler’s birthday?!? If you turned America upside down and shook her hard, I bet fewer than a hundred genuine neo-Nazis would fall out. A kind of right wing, I guess, because they always say so. But just…really, NPR?

Whoa, hang on, the Columbine anniversary? The hell? Two punk kids shoot up their high school? That’s not even…there’s nothing…that’s not right, left or anything. That’s just. No.

This all happened last week, obviously, when nobody knew nothing. Which is why I didn’t post about it then. I was in no mood.

Is it too much to ask our publicly-funded media not to accuse me of Hitler worship? And they wonder why we talk about defunding them every time we get a majority.

sock it to me

Comments


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: April 24, 2013, 10:51 pm

April events more likely to spur right-wing violence:

April 1, 1930, birthday of Grace Lee Whitney, Star Trek’s Yeoman Rand. 1973 – John & Yoko form a new country with no laws or boundaries, called Nutopia, its national anthem is silence.

 


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: April 24, 2013, 10:52 pm

April events more likely to spur right-wing violence:

April 2, 1987 – IBM introduces PS/2 and OS/2.

 


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: April 24, 2013, 10:52 pm

April events more likely to spur right-wing violence:

April 3, 1882 – Outlaw Jesse James is killed by Robert Ford.

April 4, 1859 – Bryant’s Minstrels debut “Dixie” in New York City in the finale of a blackface minstrel show.

 


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: April 24, 2013, 10:53 pm

April events more likely to spur right-wing violence:

April 5, 1887 – Anne Sullivan teaches “water” to Helen Keller. 1965 – Lava Lamp Day celebrated.

April 6, 1722 – Peter the Great ends tax on men with beards.

 


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: April 24, 2013, 10:56 pm

April events more likely to spur right-wing violence:

April 7, 1902 – Texas Oil Company (Texaco) forms. 1827 – English chemist John Walker invents wooden matches.

Yes, I am looking these up on a Thing That Happened On This Day website.

Try it. It’s fun. And I think I just ran out of steam.

 


Comment from Oceania
Time: April 24, 2013, 10:56 pm

Mein Furher!!!

 


Comment from Oceania
Time: April 24, 2013, 10:58 pm

You might be onto something: April 6, 1722 – Peter the Great ends tax on men with beards.

Muslims have defective facial hair – I wonder?

Do we have any Jews here to spice up Ze Furhers Birthday Party?

 


Comment from Gromulin
Time: April 24, 2013, 11:08 pm

The dead-tree media is absolutely soiling themselves today over the possibility (shudder) that the …DUM DA DUM…Koch Brothers may buy the Tribune family of dying newspapers. The best laugh was the article on how most of the writers would quit. Um, yeah. That’s the idea, AND they won’t get unemployment. WIN / WIN.

 


Comment from Uncle Badger
Time: April 24, 2013, 11:12 pm

Oh please, please let the Koch brothers roll-up their sleeves!

Someone has to clear out that stable.

 


Comment from Mitchell TAFKAEY
Time: April 24, 2013, 11:26 pm

NAZI = Nationalist Socialist Labor (or Worker’s) Party. Nazism was the Germain flavor of Socilism. Fascism was the Italian flavor of Socialism. USSR’s (Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics) communism was the Russian flavor of Socialism. ALL of them are hard-core, solidly LEFTIST ideologies. How the hell did we ever let these vermin smear us with their vile monsters?

 


Comment from Uncle Badger
Time: April 24, 2013, 11:31 pm

The answer to that is we let the Left appropriate both education and the media.

They realised long ago that winning elections honestly was beyond them. Then they worked out that they didn’t need to.

 


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: April 24, 2013, 11:33 pm

April 8, 1672 – Isaac Newton reads 1st optics paper before Royal Society in London. 1883 – Louis Waterman begins experiments to invents fountain pen. 1915 – “Birth of a Nation” opens at Clune’s Auditorium in LA. 1965 – Supremes release “Stop In the Name of Love”. 1969 – Meteorite weighing over 1 ton falls in Chihuahua, Mexico. 1974 – Soap opera “Secret Storm” ends a 20 year run.

 


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: April 24, 2013, 11:38 pm

April 9

1674 – English reconquer NY from Netherlands.
1885 – 1st Japanese arrive in Hawaii.
1891 – 1st shipment of asparagus arrives in SF from Sacramento.
1909 – 1st federal legislation prohibiting narcotics (opium).
1926 – Teaching theory of evolution forbidden in Atlanta, Georgia schools.
1953 – “Adventures of Superman” TV series premieres in syndication.
1971 – Probably 1st gay theme TV episode – All in the Family.
1985 – Madonna’s “Like a Virgin,” album goes #1 for 3 weeks.

Damn, I loved the Adventures of Superman. The theme song makes me puddle up even today.

 


Comment from Skandia Recluse
Time: April 24, 2013, 11:39 pm

Well I don’t know about Hitler’s Birthday, but I’m overly sensitive to the propagandists planting seeds that will one day grow into the idea that white christian conservatives are enemies of the state and need to be rounded and sent to the gulag.

 


Comment from AliceH
Time: April 24, 2013, 11:44 pm

13 outta 13!! WooT!

Seriously, though, that reminded me of when I played Trivial Pursuit with a bunch of Post Grad liberal arts type Brits — they absolutely hated the Science and Nature questions, and were stunned that I kept getting the answers. Meanwhile, I endeared myself by citing what grade it was in which I learned each data point: “Oh, that was 7th grade earth science. Ah Ha! – that was 6th grade. Gosh – didn’t learn that until junior year of high school…”.

Okay, I didn’t say that stuff out loud. But I was thinking it.

 


Comment from AliceH
Time: April 24, 2013, 11:46 pm

Err… my non sequitur comment pertains to this quiz linked on a totally different blog ::blush::

Time for me to back away slowly from the internet.

 


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: April 24, 2013, 11:55 pm

No, no…I took that earlier, AliceH. I thought it was painfully easy, only I got 12 out of 13. I blew nitrogen.

Um, if you know what I mean.

 


Comment from AltBBrown
Time: April 24, 2013, 11:55 pm

Der Führer mit der Taco Font???
Die Schande!

 


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: April 24, 2013, 11:58 pm

Yes! Yes! The taco font! I’m getting a lot of mileage out of that, unexpectedly…

 


Comment from Sporadic Small Arms Fire {drunker>>ever}
Time: April 25, 2013, 12:02 am

April 25, 1813
Americans capture Toronto, Ont.
BG Zebulon Montgomery Pike (USArmy) is killed at a ripe old age of 34 two days later.
Retreating Britishers (Baronet Sheaffe’s Regiment of Dismounted Scoundrels and their indigenous savages) put a torch to powder storage and the falling debris felled the gallant commander. Pike’s Peak (14,115 ft) in Colo. is named after him.

AVENGE ZEBULON M. PIKE!!! 200 YEARS!!!

U-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu!

 


Comment from QuasiModo
Time: April 25, 2013, 12:10 am

Hitler was a Socialist, the Nazi name was short for National Socialist…I don’t know why we let Liberal-SOCIALISTS get away with this bullshit….Hitler was a LIBERAL.

 


Comment from Statler & Waldorf LLP
Time: April 25, 2013, 12:36 am

HAA! the quiz… We iz 7%ers!
The nitrogen… reminds us how we wuz approached by a winsome lass with cleavage who wanted our signature and donation on some polar bear protection petition or carbon offsets trading or sumshit.
Poor muddleheaded critter had no idea what is the major composition of atmosphere. 79% Nitro, 19% Oxy, and hundreds of other gaseous particles make 2%.
We smiled, reached for the pen and wallet. Her gray eyes lit up. We said “Imagine a football stadium with 10,000 seats. There are 7,900 Nitro fans, 1,800 Oxy fans and 200 other fans. Of these 200, maybe 5 are Carbon Dioxy fans.
They would have to be pretty loud to make any chants, but they are not. Green plants and ocean algae snap them up quite well”.
If it were not for the matching pair of perky blouse kittens, what would be the point of preaching unto creation?

Liberate Blouse Kittens, because April is the month of Illuminati!

 


Comment from Christopher Taylor
Time: April 25, 2013, 1:27 am

People who talk like that need to not have a job any longer. What a horrible, horrible person. And no, Nazis were not right wing except in some social issues (not all). They were hard core leftists in most areas.

 


Comment from v0dk4+L3m0n
Time: April 25, 2013, 1:28 am

How easily we forget that in April 1832 Tyrant Lincoln enrolled in Illinois Militia to wipe out Black Hawk’s band.
Not satiated with that, 30 years later he invaded The Land of Cotton where old times there are not forgotton.
Not many ‘Murkans care to know that Tyrant Lincoln fought in Black Hawk War with Jefferson Davis and Virginian Zachary Taylor (POTUS#12) on the same side!

 


Comment from Davem123
Time: April 25, 2013, 1:49 am

February 12, 1999- The day the U.S. Senate failed to convict Bill Clinton on articles of impeachment for Perjury and Obstruction of Justice. Now that’s a day we can all get behind!

The sad thing is that fools like her really think that every Republican voter secretly (or not so secretly) longs for the day that we can clone Adolph and get the job done right next time. They’re closed-minded idiots, convinced that they are the most enlightened group of people ever born. They don’t get it, and they never will.

 


Comment from Pablo
Time: April 25, 2013, 1:57 am

How the hell did we ever let these vermin smear us with their vile monsters?

Same way they pulled the switcheroo immediately after Al Gore Sr. filibustered the Civil Rights Act and Dems became the party of blacks while Republicans all became racists. Everyone switched sides, you see.

 


Comment from tomfrompv
Time: April 25, 2013, 2:57 am

Not to harp, but 29 African-Americans were in that Waco Compound and ended up being killed byUS agents acting on orders from Clinton and Reno. An equal number of foreigners from Britain and AussieLand were also killed.

The media refused to report these facts since it made the US Govt look a little racist. Notice Jesse Jackson made no protest either. I guess the Brits and Aussie Govts didn’t give a fig about ex-pats in Texas.

Still, shouldn’t the children hear the truth?

 


Comment from pandelume
Time: April 25, 2013, 3:01 am

Too bad there’s no Taco Monospaced – I could code in that all day long.

Comment from Oceania
Time: April 24, 2013, 10:58 pm

Do we have any Jews here to spice up Ze Furhers Birthday Party?

Present!

 


Comment from JeffS
Time: April 25, 2013, 3:29 am

Whenever lefties start babbling that Hitler was right wing, I point out that any correct reading of the political spectrum puts that Bohemian corporal squarely in their ranks.

Yup, edyoumakayshun and the meedeeya are all hosed up, thanks to the commies.

 


Comment from Scubafreak
Time: April 25, 2013, 4:04 am

Oh, FYI, a pair of LNG barges have blown up in Mobile Alabama, at a shipyard that does work for the US Navy. Obama is expected to blame Right Wing Tea Partiers and Sequestration within the hour..

http://twitchy.com/2013/04/24/huge-explosions-reported-at-mobile-ala-shipyard/

 


Comment from Oceania
Time: April 25, 2013, 5:56 am

Pandelume!

We have a Jew!
Everything is complete for Heir Gobbles Chicken Farm!
Sweasle – release the Nazi Kittens!!!

 


Comment from Oceania
Time: April 25, 2013, 5:58 am

And Now – Entertainment on Der Furhers Birthday!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsH7X_OpKrc

 


Comment from catnip
Time: April 25, 2013, 6:44 am

A commenter over at the Diplomad notes that talk show host, Howie Carr, has begun referring to the two little Chechnyian darlings as Flash Bang and Speed Bump.

 


Comment from Man Mountain Molehill
Time: April 25, 2013, 8:43 am

The only thing Hitler was to the right
of was Josef Stalin. Of course, to today’s modern
liberal, Stalin was a progressive agrarian reformer.

 


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: April 25, 2013, 10:04 am

Hitler was patriotic and he loved the military. That’s how they hang him around our necks.

“Conservative” can mean anything you like, if you have the sort of weak, flexible intellect it takes to be a liberal. After the fall of communism in Russia, journalists referred to Russkies who longed for the commie old days as conservatives. Work that one out.

 


Comment from Some Vegetable
Time: April 25, 2013, 12:37 pm

The thing that Liberals miss IMHO is that the real issue is not about whether the central government is liberal or conservative per se. It’s all about how strong that central government is. Can it force the citizens to do what the government believes is for the benefit of the government society, be it forcing people to use solar power or killing Jews?

Once the central government is powerful, the citizens are at the mercy of the Great Leader’s whims.

 


Comment from Stark Dickflüssig
Time: April 25, 2013, 2:47 pm

Comment from S. Weasel
Time: April 24, 2013, 11:55 pm

No, no…I took that earlier, AliceH. I thought it was painfully easy, only I got 12 out of 13. I blew nitrogen.

Um, if you know what I mean.

My college educated, mensa-belonging wife missed that one too.

Many years ago, while driving along with a lady I was dating, we spotted one of those large nitrogen bottles (which I believe the phone companies use for purging oxygen out of their underground cable runs) sitting right at the curb at a busy intersection. She got a worried look in her face: “What if it gets hit by a car? Isn’t that poisonous?”

What do they teach in school, anyway?

 


Comment from Aprikozenkrantz Mandelbrotstein
Time: April 25, 2013, 2:55 pm

If one can put all emotions aside just for a single kreplach-slurping minute, a realization dawns that Monster Hitler turned out to be monetarily beneficial for the Chosenites in a way that Old Abraham has no prayer of matching.
I shall rephrase: Abraham – so-so fundraiser.
Monster A.H. = everlasting fountain of sheqels.

The term Anti-Semitism is bandied about, and to a greatly successful extent. But how could there ever be Anti-Semitism without Semitism?

Enough with the Godwin’s Law already.

I denounce sneaking Comrade Stoat Weasel for never mentioning Josif V. Stalin and his rightwing conservative extremism.

 


Comment from Stark Dickflüssig
Time: April 25, 2013, 3:52 pm

The term “Anti-Semitism” is derived from “Anti-Semite” by the (rather illiterate) tacking on of -ism, not from “Semitism”. & what would Semitism be? The belief that Jews exist & should continue to exist? Shocking!

 


Comment from mojo
Time: April 25, 2013, 4:08 pm

Birthday paradox. Only 365 days in a year, and lots of historical factoids. Gonna be some overlap.

 


Comment from Bob Mulroy
Time: April 25, 2013, 4:45 pm

Hitler’s beliefs were typical of the socialism of that time. They wanted all the goodies an omni-competant state could provide, but only for der Volk.

I suppose I should listen to NPR. “Know your enemy” and all.

 


Comment from Some Vegetable
Time: April 25, 2013, 4:53 pm

Aprikronezkranz ,

The problem with your theory is that statistics suggest that even if individual donations are smaller, you do better overall with an additional six million contributors. Just sayin.

 


Comment from I know, I know
Time: April 25, 2013, 6:38 pm

@Some Vegetable, my theory still stands.

That said, 6M are a resource as renewable as fiat paper money. All it takes is a printing press, repetitions and suppression of research. Speaking of which, you can do that too if you cared…

New York Times, May 7, 1920: “Jewish war sufferers in Central and Eastern Europe, where six millions face horrifying conditions of famine, disease and death.”

New York Times, May 5, 1920, p. 9: “…To save six million men and women in Eastern Europe from extermination by hunger and disease.”

New York Times, May 5, 1920, p. 19: “Six million starving, fever-stricken sufferers in war-torn Europe appeal to us.”

New York Times, May 3, 1920, p. 11: “Your help is needed to save the lives of six million people in Eastern and Central Europe.”

New York Times, May 2, 1920, p. 1: “…Six million human beings, without food, shelter, clothing or medical treatment.”

New York Times, May 1, 1920, p. 8: “But the lives of 6,000,000 human beings are waiting for an answer.”

New York Times, Dec. 3, 1919, p. 19: “nothing on earth except a miracle can prevent the death by freezing and starvation of from 5,000,000 to 10,000,000 people in Europe and the Middle East this winter. …atrocious Jewish massacre.”

New York Times, Nov. 12, 1919, p. 7: “…tragically unbelievable poverty, starvation and disease about 6,000,000 souls, or half the Jewish population of the earth. …a million children and five million parents and elders.

The American Hebrew [above], Oct. 31, 1919, pp. 582-.: “From across the sea, six million men and women call to us for help. …six million human beings… Six million men and women are dying. …in the threatened holocaust of human life. …six million famished men and women. Six million men and women are dying…”

New York Times, Sept. 29, 1919, p. 7: “tragically unbelievable poverty, starvation and disease… about 6,000,000 souls, or half the Jewish population of the earth.”

New York Times, Aug. 10, 1917: “Germans Let Jews Die. Women and Children in Warsaw Starving to Death… Jewish mothers, mothers of mercy, feel happy to see their nursing babies die; at least they are through with their suffering.”

New York Times, Jan. 14, 1915, p. 3: “In the world today there are about 13,000,000 Jews, of whom more than 6,000,000 are in the heart of the war zone; Jews whose lives are at stake and who today are subjected to every manner of suffering and sorrow […].”

But let us go one step further back in time. In 1900, Rabbi Stephen Wise made the following statement before Jewish welfare organizations in the USA: “there are 6,000,000 living, bleeding, suffering arguments in favor of Zionism.”

 


Comment from CoyoteKhan
Time: April 25, 2013, 7:49 pm

…who the hell throws out Hitler’s birthday like it’s a common fact? I didn’t even know Hitler’s birthday until this.

 


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: April 25, 2013, 8:10 pm

Mmm…if you’re getting at what I think you’re getting at, Aprikronezkranz von Oceania, I don’t like it one bit.

I once participated in a libertarian news forum that was taken over by Holocaust deniers (because hardline libertarians hate banning people, see?). That sounds like the kind of argument they were in love with.

Oh, it wasn’t really six million Jews, it was more like two million. And they didn’t really gas most of them, they just worked them to death. And the ordinary Germans didn’t have it so good, either. We’re just asking questions, trying to get the record right. You believe in keeping history accurate, don’t you?

It’s an ugly legalistic parsing of clear, unambiguous evil. Nasty habit of mind.

Like the Free Mumia people. No-one can possibly look at the evidence and think the sumbitch is innocent, but if there’s any chance there was a technical error in his trial, they claim, we have done an injustice and must let him go. Um, no.

 


Comment from Redd
Time: April 25, 2013, 8:28 pm

Total Deaths From Nazi Genocidal Policies:

European Jews: 5,600,000 to 6,250,00
Soviet POW : 3,000,000
Polish Catholics: 3,000,000
Serbians 700,000
Roma,Sinti, Lalleri 222,000 to 250,000
Germans {political, religious, resistance} 80,000
Germans { handicap} 70,000
Homosexuals 12,000
Jehovah’s Witnesses 2500

Death Camps
Auschwitz- Birkenau 1.1 to 1.6 million
Belzec 601,500
Chelmno 255,000
Majdanek 360,000
Sobibor 250,000
Treblinka 750,000 to 870,000

The Einsatzgruppen shot over a million Jews before they switched to gassing, starvation, neglect.

 


Comment from scottthebadger
Time: April 25, 2013, 8:39 pm

A nieghbor of ours at one time had a huge white tomcat, pure white, except for a black patch under his nose, and a smear of black fur on his forehaed. His name was Adolph Hitler of course. He really was a sweet cat, very gentle. He would come over and sit on the front porch with me and my cats. When the leftist silly girl brought up Hitler, my thought was, “I wonder what ever became of him, he really was a sweetie.”

You can use this bit of trivia to impress people. tell them that Adolph Hitler was fond of English Muffins with strawberry jam, while eating breakfast al fresco.

 


Comment from beasn
Time: April 25, 2013, 9:51 pm

but I’m overly sensitive to the propagandists planting seeds that will one day grow into the idea that white christian conservatives are enemies of the state and need to be rounded and sent to the gulag.

Exactly. The put up a boogey man – ‘right wing’ – paint whoever they want in that corner – ‘white, esp. white men, Christian, traditional, believers in rule of law, pro-lifers’ and voila, you got some h8ters needed to be purged from the utopian killing machine that is the left.

But there really isn’t a ‘right’ unless we’re looking at anarchists, tools to be used.

There is the mentally deranged, controlling ‘left’, and there is everyone else who will be put in whatever column the asshole left means to put them depending on if they go against them or not.

 


Comment from beasn
Time: April 25, 2013, 9:53 pm

Speaking of which, Oceania, are you still attached to your leg?

 


Comment from Bob Mulroy
Time: April 25, 2013, 10:00 pm

I got 13 out of 13 too. I should be richer.

 


Comment from Stark Dickflüssig
Time: April 25, 2013, 10:33 pm

Well, in fairness, it’s a “science” quiz put together by pollsters & journalists. Like a clothing & style quiz put together by EEs:

1. The invitation says “Black tie suggested.” You should wear:

a) Sweat pants & a “world’s greatest dad” t-shirt
b) Sweat pants & a polo shirt with the top button missing
c) Sweat pants & a clean shirt
d) Sweat pants & a navy blue clip-on tie attached to your bare nipple

 


Comment from Schlemiel on the Roof of Anatevka
Time: April 26, 2013, 2:00 am

Dame Stoat,

I am misunderstood and hence I haste to re-state the obvious:

It is not that I dare to deny the sacred 6,000,000.

I just deplore how often it went on and on, and on.

And then it went on some more.
Oy Vey, gevalt.

I would never dare to question the 6,000,000 documentary. Why, it can (and often has) landed a fellow behind bars in Zoorope or Canuckistan.

I shan’t dream of not venerating millions of survivors and granting every sanction to Likud Party. Or Shas for that matter.

I am not a thought criminal.
Bad A.H.! BAD!!

 


Comment from Statler & Waldorf LLP
Time: April 26, 2013, 2:11 am

@Christopher Taylor,

if you were referring to us as a horrible person who need not to have a job any longer, you are 100% correct, we are horrible AND we quit work in 2011 and never looked back!!

Out of sheer curiosity, what specifically triggered your repulse? Was it that we dared to quote evidence? or was it our familiarity with chemistry?
or do you disapprove of blouse kitten fanciers?
or it wasn’t about us?

Pick as many as you like.

 


Comment from Aprikozenkrantz Mandelbrotsteinsky
Time: April 26, 2013, 3:12 am

@Redd,

These are grim and so very verifiable numbers it is a wonder we do not carry them on a laminated card or better yet have them tattooed on upper appendage or forehead.

There is of course never any participation of conservative religious/ethnic minority in any unpleasantness of the vanquished nations after ‘Murkans won and Uncle Joe was greeted as a Liberator.
Julia Brystiger acted alone. Alone, I say.
Erno Gero, Matyas Rakosi were really some kind of Norwegians, probably. All staunch Conservatives and free-marketers. Every one of them. Fully assimilated, baptized, whole rugelach.

True story.

 


Comment from Rich Rostrom
Time: April 26, 2013, 3:59 am

Oh, man… Hitler “right” or “left”?

Definitely not “conservative”. Fascism was all about charging into the future and radically changing society. It was a split-off from Red socialism, when it became apparent that capitalism was making the proletarian masses prosperious, not driving them to rise up in Revolution. So some other political package had to be sold for the revolutionaries to win power. Extreme nationalism and a cult of unity was that package. “Everything in the state…”

However, fascists regularly allied with reactionary conservatives, such as Franco in Spain, some Italian and German aristocrats, and some extremist Catholics. (There were monks running Ustashe prison camps in Yugoslavia.)

And fascists (including Nazis) didn’t confiscate private wealth or expropriate industry (except from Jews). The “Sozialist” in NSDAP was a flag of convenience. The “Red” element of the Nazis was mainly the Strasser brothers and the SA, who were all purged by Hitler as he took power. (The SA were described as “beefsteaks”: brown on the outside, red on the inside.)

The militarist element of fascism, and the racial element of Nazism, was definitely “right”, not “left”.

Yes, if one really wants to, one can find parallels between some fascist policies and contemporary liberalism, or with socialism, but that doesn’t mean they are all the same.

Emotionally and symbolically, and on the key issue of economic redistribution, fascism (including Nazism) was “right” not “left”.

There’s a lot in common between the Obama program and the “Progressive” movement of the early 20th century. But Teddy Roosevelt was a fervent Progressive, and he was no socialist.

 


Comment from Christopher Taylor
Time: April 26, 2013, 4:23 am

Fascism was an attempt to build a third way, borrowing from both, but mostly based on leftist economics and a lot of leftist social ideas (eliminating religion, education by the state away from parents, government-provided jobs, food, medicine, even housing and clothes, equality for women in all areas, etc). There were some right-leaning concepts added in; such as strong patriotism and great respect for tradition, as well as revulsion over the more corrupt and extreme examples of permissiveness and art in German culture.

And now in Europe, all they remember is military and patriotism, they conveniently ignore all the leftist wet dream stuff the Nazis implemented when they took power. Like eliminating unemployment by just creating government-mandated make work jobs (paid for by looting Jews and others who didn’t fit the plan), government controls on business and what they can do, etc.

Modern cronyism is how big business worked in Nazi controlled areas. The government was in charge, but through influence and cash you could buy yourself exceptions or special treatment.

 


Comment from Oceania
Time: April 26, 2013, 4:25 am

The 6 million figure is bullshit.

NZ SEO estimated no more than 890,000 Jews died in WW2 … so there you have it.

Check the early newspapers for 6 million dead jews here there and everywhere!!

 


Comment from Oceania
Time: April 26, 2013, 4:29 am

Oh I see that Sweasle is whinging that someone got to the Jews before I did!!

Well, I’m just back from my MRI scan!
Looks like I missed the 6 milllion shit-fight!!

86 million died at the hands of Jewish Bolsheviks!!! They were hell bent on killing non Jews!!!

 


Comment from (i) AM Global
Time: April 26, 2013, 8:47 am

Hey Oceania?

what was your MRI diagnosis, pray tell? 3rd trimester?
Dilated and leaking lower intestine?
Irradiated hairless hump?
Any microchip implants or just a fistful of festering buckshot?
Impacted hairballs?

I hope it all works out for you. It seems like you are not really a happy person.

 


Comment from CoyoteKhan
Time: April 26, 2013, 10:53 am

“86 million died at the hands of Jewish Bolsheviks!!! They were hell bent on killing non Jews!!!”

Point one, I don’t recall Joseph Stalin being Jewish(in fact wasn’t he a Christian theology student at one point?).

Point two, I recall a certain event in Soviet history called the ‘Doctors’ plot’ where scores of Jews were arrested.

I think the best way to describe the Soviet Union was that nobody was safe. Absolutely nobody.

 


Comment from Oceania
Time: April 26, 2013, 11:45 am

You are correct.
Outside my vile sense of perverse humour, your take on Soviet history is correct.

Never drink with Stalin.

First rule of assassination, kill the assassins.

 


Comment from Christopher Taylor
Time: April 26, 2013, 3:11 pm

Jews were more than arrested in Stalinist Russia, he killed an awful lot of them, too. But thank you for Redd posting the OTHER people who died as well. It wasn’t just Jews, it was slavs, gypsies, epileptics, blacks, and anyone else who didn’t fit the plan. And they were just getting started.

 


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