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Possible theory is that everyone in the White House and State Dept. thought that the fighting would be over soon and everyone would be dead. Then the fighting continued. Then the CIA contractors got involved. Then the fighting kept on continuing.

It’s like realizing at 1am in the morning you want something to snack on but you don’t want to get out of bed. More time passes but the desire doesn’t go away. Every minute you don’t get out of bed means you are that much more invested in not getting up and getting that damn snack. Sooner or later it’s daylight out or you’re up and eating. But having invested so heavily into one branch of the decision tree means changing becomes harder and harder.

Either that or it was a complete set up from the get go to get Stevens killed and set up a Tonkin Gulf style situation for American troops on the ground.

Needless to say I agree(I was the one who floated if after all). I hope you don’t mind if I expand my reasoning of what’s actually motivating them.

As I mentioned before, it’s incompetence, but I think it’s a very special brand of it, ideologically motivated incompetence. They’re blind because they see the world as an ought and not as the world really is.

So for example, the Arab Spring. Here I believe that the typical leftist in power sees an oppressed class — Arabs — finally throwing off their evil oppressors — the US backed strong men. The fact they’re strong men without any socialist leanings is bad in their eyes. The fact that they’re backed by the United States, the great Satan- erm oppressor, only makes them worse.

To take another example of a group that liked the Arab Spring to contrast, Neocons. They believed in it because Neocons seem to believe that democracy always has positive results — essentially they think democracy always ends up leading to economic, civil, and political freedom.

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I do have a few more thoughts on the subject, mainly concerning the individual pathologies of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, but I’ll hold back to see if my exposition holds any water with my fellow commenters.

Man, these guys really believe don’t they? That’s sooooo pathetic. One of the very first things I was taught by my mentor was:

“Never fall for your own propaganda”.

Amateurs… Bah.

What has been seen cannot be unseen.

Is Hillary’s throat really that creepy or is it photoshop. And, women look so stupid in pants suits with high heels – at least our next POTUS does.

Look.

Hilary’s friends had strong ties to the group that raided that compound. They even funded that group.

When you captured one of their group for ‘holding Q&A’ – which means death – they came in and took him.

It is well known what happens to people in US hands.
Just look at the concentration camps you are running in Afghanistan?
10,000’s dead in the first years alone.

Well yes, that’s the thing. They weren’t malicious here, just lousy at their jobs, something we’ve long been saying. Like Khan mentions they are not just incompetent but blindly wedded to an ideology that cannot survive real world contact, and it continuously lets them down. Yet like the true zealot, that’s never evidence they might be wrong, but instead proof that they haven’t been given enough power and those horrible people before them messed things up so long its just going to take longer.

And when it blows up in their face, they are protected and coddled and never criticized except by people who the elites have decided don’t count. And besides, even if they were wrong in this instance, well the alternative of the other side winning is so much worse than any price is acceptable to pay to stop them from winning, be it the truth, honor, liberty, and even some idiot film maker that makes lousy movies. So a few lives are lost, people die. What’s important is that Republicans never get power back.

Tar. Feathers.
The lot of em.

Haha, democracy! So, one batty strong-man is supplanted by a rather larger group of slightly less sane (& (more importantly) manipulable) foamers. Who are supported by a large (but perhaps not “absolute majority” large), dim-witted group of religious fanatics. Who are generally backed (in that sense of “I’m sure they mean well”) by the vast majority who are observant believers but mostly peaceful (they only dance in the streets when hundreds or thousands of Americans are murdered, not mere dozens or tens).

How democratic.

My take is they didn’t want al killda’s ugly head to rear up since oblowme said their threat was minimal. So here comes a not so minimal little terrorist act and he needs to hide it before the big election. Malicious? Youbetcha.

CoyoteKhan@ May 9, 2013, 11:29 pm: So for example, the Arab Spring. Here I believe that the typical leftist in power sees an oppressed class — Arabs — finally throwing off their evil oppressors — the US backed strong men. The fact they’re strong men without any socialist leanings is bad in their eyes.

Except that the first target of the Arab Spring was Gaddafi, venomously anti-U.S. and a professed socialist. (His regime was the “Great Socialist People’s Libyan Arab Jamahiriya”, and he was a BFF of Hugo Chavez.)

Mubarak was U.S.-backed, and privatized some state-owned enterprises, but this was more a way to enrich his family and cronies than any opposition to socialism.

Bashir Assad is as anti-American as Gaddafi, and ruled Syria through the “Arab Socialist Ba’ath Party”.

The replacements may be even worse in some respects (especially in Egypt), but the old regimes were vile.

Its hard not to get a little realpolitik about “Arab Spring” events. Yes, the dictators ousted were scum, but some of them were at least somewhat friendly scum. Which is worse: a dictator who oppresses his people… but is friendly with the west – or – a dictator who oppresses his people… but is hostile to the west?

This is what I think happened:

The attack on the embassy was reported to Washington. The report went to the White House, along with the suggestion of sending the “quick reaction force”. Obama called up Valerie Jarrett. She dismissed the report of actual military assault on the compound as hysterical exaggeration. Then she told him not to send troops: “This will blow over by tomorrow. Do you want headlines about Americans massacring protestors for throwing rocks and bottles at the embassy?” And so Obama did nothing.

I base this on the reports that Jarrett vetoed multiple operations to get Osama before Obama finally went through with one.

Good lord, how much of that pic is p’shop? She looks like an extra from the walking dead.

God Hillary looks bad – and I’m not talking about the most excellent photoshop heading this post. Great job Stoaty! But seriously she has gone into the toilet looks-wise. Al Gore also looks like shit. They suck, bad.

Benghazi? Just straight-up stupid-shit incompetence. Absolutely impeachable, this-guy-seriously-needs-to-no-longer-hold-office kind of incompetence; but, he should not be removed from office. He should be investigated, hassled, and publicly heckled mercilessly until his term is up. It’s the American way.

Or asassinated?

Well, the eyes are heavily ‘shopped, of course. But I did use some burn and dodge to emphasize wrinklage that was already there, and a bit of mild warp in a couple of places to lean on unflattering characteristics that are really there. Sometimes less is more with ugly P’shops.

Anyhow, you know what? The US *always* back the wrong guy in any Middle East conflict…because they’re all the wrong guy. Every one of the bastards. Doesn’t matter which side you come down on, it’ll turn out badly.

Lets see what Vladimir Tsarovich Putin has to say about this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Q55SxoaiJjw

Well, that was boring, O.

OT, but…
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The Jarret screening idea seems the most plausible. From what I understand she basically runs the place.

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DERP!!!

I’ve balled worse.

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Let’s see what Oceania has to say about this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrmPehlHK3w

Evil Americans!

Look what you are funding in Syria!

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Stark Dickflüssig

Stark indeed – isn’t it?
What happens when they start eating Americans – in your own homes?

F*ck Hillary and the pasty fat-thighed hillbilly she rode in on.

No snuff films please, O.

Again, Sweaseless deletes important news ….

Need to Know news – that might save her once great country …

I see Stark can’t handle the Truth either.

It will not save my country to watch one Muslim savage cut out and eat the heart of another Muslim savage. They’re animals. We know that. The president may not, but he’s not really American and he’s not very bright.

LOOK WHAT ELSE YOU EVIL ‘MERICANS ARE FUNDING!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7FjqL_6FJc

(try to not get a boner, Oceania)

Oh, god, I almost wet myself, Stark.

Glad I could be of··· uh, service.

Looks like Hillary’s stroke may have an effect on the next primaries.