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		<title>By: Gregory the First</title>
		<link>http://sweasel.com/archives/4340/comment-page-1#comment-42508</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory the First</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 06:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, he&#039;s dead now. He no longer has to face our opprobriums and judgement.

No, he&#039;ll have to face Judgement. If you believe not in God&#039;s Judgement, then the Judgement of history. And that is all any of us can hope for, I should say, either way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, he&#8217;s dead now. He no longer has to face our opprobriums and judgement.</p>
<p>No, he&#8217;ll have to face Judgement. If you believe not in God&#8217;s Judgement, then the Judgement of history. And that is all any of us can hope for, I should say, either way.</p>
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		<title>By: S. Weasel</title>
		<link>http://sweasel.com/archives/4340/comment-page-1#comment-42477</link>
		<dc:creator>S. Weasel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 12:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Late night, he was tired, there was a woman napping in the back of the car. He drove off, didn&#039;t know she was there. Not a fantastically believable story, but I would have accepted that explanation before the one he gave. 

It&#039;s more plausible than &quot;I tried to rescue her, then I went back to my hotel and went to sleep without notifying the authorities.&quot; That&#039;s a light-bendingly stupid story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Late night, he was tired, there was a woman napping in the back of the car. He drove off, didn&#8217;t know she was there. Not a fantastically believable story, but I would have accepted that explanation before the one he gave. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s more plausible than &#8220;I tried to rescue her, then I went back to my hotel and went to sleep without notifying the authorities.&#8221; That&#8217;s a light-bendingly stupid story.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Rostrom</title>
		<link>http://sweasel.com/archives/4340/comment-page-1#comment-42475</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Rostrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 06:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stoaty: What story did he &quot;allow us to believe&quot;? The &quot;official&quot; story was that he immediately tried to rescue Kopechne, then went for help as soon as possible - both halves fairly implausible. But not as discreditable as a) going off to to have adulterous sex, b) being so drunk that he didn&#039;t notice Kopechne was in the car, and c) being so obsessed with covering up a) and b) that no rescue was attempted until too late.

He did not admit to being a murderer; if it looked that way to some people, that was suspicion, but not conviction. His acknowledged responsibility for the death was negligent driving, which can happen to anyone: vide Laura Bush, or former governor Janklow of South Dakota. (Janklow did 100 days in jail and resigned his U.S. House seat; but then he wasn&#039;t a Kennedy in Massachusetts).

If he had admitted to the true circumstances, it would have finished him. Drunkenness and casual adultery leading to a death through negligence - plus explicitly admitting to an attempted cover-up. Remember, this wasn&#039;t the 1990s - it was 1969.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stoaty: What story did he &#8220;allow us to believe&#8221;? The &#8220;official&#8221; story was that he immediately tried to rescue Kopechne, then went for help as soon as possible &#8211; both halves fairly implausible. But not as discreditable as a) going off to to have adulterous sex, b) being so drunk that he didn&#8217;t notice Kopechne was in the car, and c) being so obsessed with covering up a) and b) that no rescue was attempted until too late.</p>
<p>He did not admit to being a murderer; if it looked that way to some people, that was suspicion, but not conviction. His acknowledged responsibility for the death was negligent driving, which can happen to anyone: vide Laura Bush, or former governor Janklow of South Dakota. (Janklow did 100 days in jail and resigned his U.S. House seat; but then he wasn&#8217;t a Kennedy in Massachusetts).</p>
<p>If he had admitted to the true circumstances, it would have finished him. Drunkenness and casual adultery leading to a death through negligence &#8211; plus explicitly admitting to an attempted cover-up. Remember, this wasn&#8217;t the 1990s &#8211; it was 1969.</p>
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		<title>By: SDN</title>
		<link>http://sweasel.com/archives/4340/comment-page-1#comment-42454</link>
		<dc:creator>SDN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 18:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;When they found the space shuttle Challenger remains, the crew cabin was intact.&quot;

Chris, that cabin may have been &quot;intact&quot;; however, I can guarantee that the crew was turned into chunky salsa instantly on impact from 100,000 feet plus with no chute. They didn&#039;t die nearly as slowly as Mary Jo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When they found the space shuttle Challenger remains, the crew cabin was intact.&#8221;</p>
<p>Chris, that cabin may have been &#8220;intact&#8221;; however, I can guarantee that the crew was turned into chunky salsa instantly on impact from 100,000 feet plus with no chute. They didn&#8217;t die nearly as slowly as Mary Jo.</p>
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		<title>By: Oldcat</title>
		<link>http://sweasel.com/archives/4340/comment-page-1#comment-42449</link>
		<dc:creator>Oldcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 20:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Rich, thats great. So to cover the embarrassment of not knowing Mary Jo was in the car, Ted and his date and every one else at the party decides to let him go down in history as a callous murderer.

I hope he gave his political advisors raises after that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Rich, thats great. So to cover the embarrassment of not knowing Mary Jo was in the car, Ted and his date and every one else at the party decides to let him go down in history as a callous murderer.</p>
<p>I hope he gave his political advisors raises after that.</p>
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		<title>By: Burn in hell &#187; Cold Fury</title>
		<link>http://sweasel.com/archives/4340/comment-page-1#comment-42447</link>
		<dc:creator>Burn in hell &#187; Cold Fury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 13:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] up, Miz Weasel: For once in my miserable life, I wasn’t going to go there. Though there are so very many things [...]</description>
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		<title>By: S. Weasel</title>
		<link>http://sweasel.com/archives/4340/comment-page-1#comment-42446</link>
		<dc:creator>S. Weasel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 11:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem I have with all the alternate stories, Rich, is that ALL of them are less damaging to Ted than the one he allowed us all to believe. Why concoct an elaborate cover story that makes you look like a sociopathic monster?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem I have with all the alternate stories, Rich, is that ALL of them are less damaging to Ted than the one he allowed us all to believe. Why concoct an elaborate cover story that makes you look like a sociopathic monster?</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Rostrom</title>
		<link>http://sweasel.com/archives/4340/comment-page-1#comment-42444</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Rostrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 08:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is reason to think Teddy didn&#039;t even know Kopechne was in the car. Another woman&#039;s purse was in the car. The best guess is that Kopechne was passed out drunk in the back seat when Teddy and the other woman drove off for a tryst on the beach - both too drunk to notice her. The car went in the drink. Teddy and the other woman escaped, then staggered back to the house - relieved that they hadn&#039;t been hurt. Teddy&#039;s crew went into crash overdrive to cover up this embarrassment, but didn&#039;t worry about the wrecked car. Several hours later, someone said, &quot;Hey, where&#039;s Mary Jo?&quot; ... and the shit really hit the fan.

Much as I despised Kennedy, I don&#039;t think he would have knowingly left a woman to drown or suffocate - if only because of the political fallout.

One other point: he did immense harm in his Senate career, but he also did a lot to enact deregulation of trucking and airlines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is reason to think Teddy didn&#8217;t even know Kopechne was in the car. Another woman&#8217;s purse was in the car. The best guess is that Kopechne was passed out drunk in the back seat when Teddy and the other woman drove off for a tryst on the beach &#8211; both too drunk to notice her. The car went in the drink. Teddy and the other woman escaped, then staggered back to the house &#8211; relieved that they hadn&#8217;t been hurt. Teddy&#8217;s crew went into crash overdrive to cover up this embarrassment, but didn&#8217;t worry about the wrecked car. Several hours later, someone said, &#8220;Hey, where&#8217;s Mary Jo?&#8221; &#8230; and the shit really hit the fan.</p>
<p>Much as I despised Kennedy, I don&#8217;t think he would have knowingly left a woman to drown or suffocate &#8211; if only because of the political fallout.</p>
<p>One other point: he did immense harm in his Senate career, but he also did a lot to enact deregulation of trucking and airlines.</p>
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		<title>By: Oldcat</title>
		<link>http://sweasel.com/archives/4340/comment-page-1#comment-42434</link>
		<dc:creator>Oldcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 00:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is in response to Mr Taylor above - 

She did not die at once, get knocked unconscious, or panic. She was found braced so that her head was in the air pocket, as she was probably knocked into the back seat by the crash as the car flipped entirely over.

In the Mythbusters Episode, Adam was able to get out after the car sank and all air pockets bubbled out. The water isnt that deep, and possibly the pressure never equalized at all. In any event, a daylight escape from a gently lowered car is far different than a pitch black, inverted, watery coffin. 

And Adam &#039;drowned&#039; in his first attempt. Mary Jo didn&#039;t get an chance to try it again.

Kennedy says he dived down to rescue her, like every word he has said about the event I assume it is a lie. His handler took him back there from the party and he tried to get into the car while Ted did nothing. By then it was surely too late for Mary Jo.

If Kennedy had run to the nearest house which had its light on, possibly she could have been saved. And if Ted had trusted his handlers more, he could have gone there and brazened out it all, succeed or fail in rescuing her. If they could cover what he actually did, they could have covered up him acting responsibly after the accident.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is in response to Mr Taylor above &#8211; </p>
<p>She did not die at once, get knocked unconscious, or panic. She was found braced so that her head was in the air pocket, as she was probably knocked into the back seat by the crash as the car flipped entirely over.</p>
<p>In the Mythbusters Episode, Adam was able to get out after the car sank and all air pockets bubbled out. The water isnt that deep, and possibly the pressure never equalized at all. In any event, a daylight escape from a gently lowered car is far different than a pitch black, inverted, watery coffin. </p>
<p>And Adam &#8216;drowned&#8217; in his first attempt. Mary Jo didn&#8217;t get an chance to try it again.</p>
<p>Kennedy says he dived down to rescue her, like every word he has said about the event I assume it is a lie. His handler took him back there from the party and he tried to get into the car while Ted did nothing. By then it was surely too late for Mary Jo.</p>
<p>If Kennedy had run to the nearest house which had its light on, possibly she could have been saved. And if Ted had trusted his handlers more, he could have gone there and brazened out it all, succeed or fail in rescuing her. If they could cover what he actually did, they could have covered up him acting responsibly after the accident.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
		<link>http://sweasel.com/archives/4340/comment-page-1#comment-42417</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw that book in a tourist&#039;s shop in D.C. and I thought then -Why would anyone buy a children&#039;s book written by a murderer? 

The irony is his dog Splash would have tried to save Mary Jo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw that book in a tourist&#8217;s shop in D.C. and I thought then -Why would anyone buy a children&#8217;s book written by a murderer? </p>
<p>The irony is his dog Splash would have tried to save Mary Jo.</p>
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