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Global what now?

I called home and spoke to the folks last night. My dad informed me it was 107° in Nashville. Been over 100° for ages and no rain for weeks. They put out bowls of water for the birds.

And I’m thinking, “oh, hell, I bet the AGW crowd is making all kinds of hay out of this.”

So, please to be taking a good, hard look at my weather up there. That’s for reals, and that’s what it’s been all Summer: days in the mid-sixties, nights in the mid-fifties.

And I know what you’re thinking: the weather famously blows in England, but this is something special. Particularly the temperatures.

(That thing on Friday, with the sun and clouds and lightning and rains of fish and hail shaped like Winston Churchill’s pizzle? That’s totally typical for the seaside).

They’ve reached out for “CO2 causes every kind of scary weather!” in a panic, and we mustn’t let them go back to warmening just because it’s hot in July sometimes.

Comments


Comment from Uncle Badger
Time: July 3, 2012, 11:00 pm

Yes… the weirdest summer. Cold, the wettest on record (evvah!) Scotland getting more sun than England…

You should just see my onions!

No… wait… I didn’t mean that!!!


Comment from Some Vegetable
Time: July 3, 2012, 11:35 pm

There’s a fundamental problem with the whole concept behind ‘global warming’. That is, very simply speaking, that it is based on the idea that with limited data points you can collect enough information to make an “average global temperature”. The data points that are available must be grouped and extrapolated to ‘speak’ for surrounding areas for which no actual data is available. The data manipulation required to develop even an ‘average North American temperature’ is fraught with alogrithyms of questionable actual value.

Then we next must consider how to compare our averaged data points with the even more limited data points available from the past, nothing that even using the exact same location -say somewhere on a street in London where some generations of an OCD family may have kept records for some hundreds of years- problems such as the urban heat island effect or poor placement of the thermometer (now or in the past) give variant readings. Finally, let us consider the idea of tree rings serving as “treemometers”. That having been done we may all have a short laugh after recognizing that tree ring records are very limited in supply requiring even more extrapolation to surrounding areas and noting that not all treemometers are the same species of tree or planted in even remotely similar circumstances of shade, water availabity, nutrient availability, etc.

In short, the data available has to be tortured till it screams to provide any information and that has questionable reliability even before a dozen trees have been selected to speak for a continent. Computers allow people to crunch large amounts of data but if the underlying assumptions have no value then the calculations are worthless

It’s all bullshit.

/rant off


Comment from Can’t hark my cry
Time: July 3, 2012, 11:44 pm

I am an agnostic on the subject of global warming. I have friends on both sides of the debate with equally impressive credentials, and I have dutifully read all the links they send me to–and I just don’t think we have a clue one way or the other.

I got no problem at all with not treating a very hot summer as proof of global warming; by the same token, I wish that zealots on the other side of the debate wouldn’t assure me that a very cold winter disproves it.


Comment from Uncle Badger
Time: July 3, 2012, 11:45 pm

Hallelujah! SV 🙂


Comment from Jeff Gauch
Time: July 4, 2012, 12:13 am

We’ve been having similar weather to you here in the PacNorWest, quite cool and rainy. Seeing as that’s the norm 9 months out of the year I feel cheated.

Meanwhile my hometown catches fire and my brother has to evacuate.

To expand on SV’s rant, we also have to remember that chaos theory got its start because someone noticed that a weather model produced wildly different results when in ran straight through vice when it was interrupted. We are talking about modelling the OG chaotic system with incomplete data. Anyone who says they know what’s going on with climate is, quite simply, lying to you.

Furthermore, Al Gore needs to prove three things to gain my support.

1) The climate is warming. (I’m willing to grant it as at least plausable)

2) We can do anything about it. (This is basically unsupported)

3) “Fixing” the climate will cost less than coping with the outcome. (This is basically Grade A BS, well suited for fertilizing onions)


Comment from JeffS
Time: July 4, 2012, 12:16 am

SV has the right of the matter. What turned me off was the over-reliance on computer models, and the flagrant ignoring of GIGO.

Said models were held up as Oracles of Truth and Justice, and were RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT, no matter how much crap any computer model is, by their very nature. Applying them to the chaotic energy balancing system known as weather, and expecting results accurate to 100 years from now? PUUUUUHHHHHHH-leeeeeeeze.

And the data input! SV has the majority of that, but there were also the data points they ignored, like that bright thing in the sky. The one we see during the day, not at night. You know: the sun!

And so on. When Gorezilla appointed Hisself High Priest, Virgin Deflowerer, and Chief Tax Collector of Mother Gaia, that was merely a symbolic kiss of death.


Comment from Redd
Time: July 4, 2012, 3:00 am

It bugs me how the AGW goons have no problems trying to exploit every tragedy. They want us to live like peasants while they live large on our money. They are frauds. If I had my way, they’d all be in prison because they are no better than grifters.

On a lighter note, I’m enjoying the BBC Richard II. Up Twinkles!


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Time: July 4, 2012, 8:13 am

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Comment from S. Weasel
Time: July 4, 2012, 9:17 am

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I was watching some anime thing a couple of years ago, and they were banging on about watching the world in a mirror with no light and it dawned on me they meant “through a glass darkly.”

I find these translation glitches really interesting, because they kind of unpeel language.


Comment from Oceania
Time: July 4, 2012, 11:48 am

Missed all the snow here this year- weird … funny weather – not too cold – not too hot …

We Want Your Air Filters!

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This means you too Pube!


Comment from Redd
Time: July 4, 2012, 7:48 pm

I like British History. I like the Queen. But man, I think they over did it with the number of programs they made and aired about her this year. And always narrated by the same stuffy people. Oi!


Comment from sandman is going to resist
Time: July 4, 2012, 9:57 pm

Well, swease, if it gets too hot in NZ,Oceania can use its head to wedge a window open and let in cool air. With it being such an expansive gourd, the air will just flow around that hollow melon and cool the room.

Sadly,Oceania is only available to prop open windows in NZ, and otherwise qualifies for the 100m slobber and stagger event at the Very Special Olympics.

So, what with you having cool weather there, you have no use for Oceania. Hotter than the hubs of hell here in NC, we still have no use for old Nards-Head. SO I guess he can stay in NZ and prop open a window with his head.

Oh, marched with the local Tea PArty in the 4th of July parade and heckled some progressives. The Roberts Debacle has energized folks to the point they stopped walking and clapped when we passed…and ignored the rest of the parade participants.

For the record, AGW is crap, it’s all about socialist politics and control of the population. But they don’t need that excuse anymore: they got all the license they need to screw the world up with the Roberts decision.

At least I know who my enemies are now…


Comment from Redd
Time: July 4, 2012, 10:07 pm

I’m watching this Shakespeare Uncovered and they have to make some lame and outrageous comparison between Richard II and Thatcher. No, BBC she was not a tyrant. 20 years gone and they can’t help themselves from taking cheap shots at her. Derek Jacobi, I’m pissed at you!


Comment from Oldcat
Time: July 5, 2012, 8:52 pm

Pretty Cool the last 2 summers here in SoCal.


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