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To be fair, Gore Vidal did need to be punched in the face.

She’s kind of a big dude. I’m not going to sit through the whole video because I just don’t care enough, but if anyone puts their hands on you uninvited and threatens you with violence, dress or no, a punch in the goddamned face is on the menu.

The tiny white boy caused her to feel unsafe and oppressed with his science-y words and frightening conservatism. How else could she protect her delicate nature if not crushing his skull into pulp? Isn’t it how all ladies of a refined air are required to respond? It was either that or a case of the vapors!

(It would make a good murder mystery. Male DNA, with female hormones. So does the suspect still look like a “male” or is he/she now appearing as a female. And if “she” laid off the female hormones for awhile, would the blood tests “pass” as male?)

Henceforth I shall refer to Jenner as Jenner and avoid using any pronouns. Jenner is a millionaire, which no doubt bolstered Jenner’s “courage.” As for Tor—a little decorum please. And keep your knees together, even under the table.

Deborah HH – I was fine tuning my main character when your comment showed up. In my mystery, the gender reassignment was part of the overall plan!

@BrendaM—oh wow! Gender reassignment as part of the plan. This sounds like a techno-thriller!

BrendaM,

I am certain that using gender reassignment, as part of a plan that does not involve transgender empowerment, is both a macroaggression and transphobic. 😉

I hope this is a book that will be offered for purchase!

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: sincerity of belief does not turn Bruce Jenner into a woman any more than it turns an inhabitant of the local nuthatch into Napoleon. Humouring mentally-ill gender dysphorics, or whatever the phrase du jour is, is as bad as agreeing with an anorexic girl that she could stand to lose some weight.

I think she’s channeling John Lithgow/Roberta Muldoon.

And I’m with Pupster, Take your stinking paws off me you damn dirty ape.

“You might want to keep those enormous mitts to yourself, honey.”

PS: Hell, I thought it WAS Lithgow…

PPS: Hmmm. Seen any crazed lookin’ chooks hanging about lately?

http://t.co/oaozScQOsl

It’s being reported that Shapiro has filed charges against Tur, stating that he was assaulted (which he clearly was), and that Tur made additional threats of violence after the show was over (which amounts to further counts of assault) – the neck-grabbing also amounts to battery, an additional (possible) charge.

Huh! The very first comment was the one I was (also) gonna make.

Comment from J.S.Bridges
Time: July 21, 2015, 6:06 am

It’s being reported that Shapiro has filed charges against Tur, stating that he was assaulted (which he clearly was), and that Tur made additional threats of violence after the show was over (which amounts to further counts of assault) – the neck-grabbing also amounts to battery, an additional (possible) charge.
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Good. Use their own “rules” and techniques against ’em.

I like to call Jenner “The Former Athlete Formerly Known As Bruce”. The FAFKAB.

A slight amendment: consensus seems to be that Tur was reacting to the fact (I didn’t even catch this) that Shapiro kept calling him “sir” throughout.

Heh.

Also, it would appear that the “op” I read about was facial surgery. Tur is an intact male down below.

“Joe’s Garage” is starting to look scarily prescient.

…consensus seems to be that Tur was reacting to the fact (I didn’t even catch this) that Shapiro kept calling him “sir” throughout.

Two things on this:

1) As observed a bit earlier in the thread: How one clothes oneself, hormone-injects ones person, exhibits (or not…) a particular sort of outward secondary sexual characteristics and/or conducts ones sex life does not alter ones basic, in-born X-Y chromosome structure nor the “gender assignment” that unavoidably results therefrom – in brief: A man’s a man, for a’ that…and the same goes, vice the versa, for wimmins. Mr. Shapiro was merely pointing to reality in the face of Mr. Tur’s flaunted unreality, albeit in a rather mean-minded, passive-aggressive manner.

2) Regardless of any lack of politesse in Shapiro’s manner of addressing Tur, my prior points still stand – it is one thing to be openly impolite in addressing another during a discussion involving “gender reassignment”; by law, it is a much more consequential matter for the another involved to issue direct, open threats and/or make physically-aggressive moves directed at the one, no matter the alleged “provocation”.

Quite frankly, I sincerely hope and trust Shapiro will take it to court and hand Tur HIS overaggressive ass. Whether cross-“gender”, cross-dresser or merely cross-minded, being a nasty, threatening, neck-grabby butthead ’cause somebody gets a li’l snotty deserves to be smacked down – hard and proper.

@ Mitchell:

I’ve simply started referring to him as Bruce Gender.