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How to get a Weasel Import License, Part the First

Ugh. It was mere minutes before the visa application process turned me into Screaming Attack Weasel.

Some visas must be applied for online (then you print it out and mail it in, so god knows what that’s about). You know who doesn’t do online very skillfully?

Government.

Like, the forms would ask a long-ass question and give a 100-character allowance for the answer. Then strip out all punctuation except for commas and periods, making a weasel’s crisp prose read like something a baglady would mumble to herself in her sleep.

But the show-stopper came when I reached Uncle B’s details. UK citizen, born in London, currently living in the UK. Got it, got it. Next page: on what date did he enter the UK? Pretty much on his birthday, you stupid piece of shit. It asks me to prove it and when I hit the little question mark help dealie, it suggests I attach the first page of his passport.

Yeah, I’ll do that. Using magic electron staples that stick to the internet. Jesus.

Fortunately, you don’t have to fill it out in one sitting, because I so had to walk away right about then. If you don’t get it just right on the first try, it can weaken your chances in the future.

We would be willing to pay for professional help, but that’s like writing “chum” on your ass and jumping into the shark tank. When you want to immigrate someplace good, people slither out of the woodwork to tell you they can get you there, they swears…for a small fee.

Comments


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: October 3, 2008, 2:37 pm

It’s full of hidden pitfalls, too. All these years I’ve been going over, when asked my purpose, I have said ‘vacation.’ Turns out, that’s considered a lie: the real answer is ‘visiting a boyfriend.’

And, under new rules, lying about the purpose of your visit is an automatic ten year ban on entering the UK.

Brits are rightly upset about the massive immigration that has taken place under Labour. But the solution is not arbitrary civil servant assholery.


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: October 3, 2008, 2:39 pm

Sometimes you have to love New York. Looks like the Post is trying to do streaming video on the cheap (check out the bouncing sound levels):

I call this clip “Brown Girls for Biden, Homosexual Men for Sarah (Yellow Lady Undecided).”


Comment from Lemur King
Time: October 3, 2008, 3:10 pm

I’ve heard of “puppy uppers” and “doggie downers”… we’re heading into “weasel wonkers” territory, aren’t we?

I’m reminded of the saying that “if you want to be president you should in no way be allowed into the office”.

In the same vein, if you fill out that application in it’s entirety to enter the dot-CO-dot-UK legally, then by no means should you be allowed, as you are clinically insane.

Hoping you see that as a joke and not as a reason to hunt down and discombobulate ol’ LK.


Comment from Steamboat McGoo
Time: October 3, 2008, 3:11 pm

I bet you could make the case that civil servant assholery is the servant-preferred solution to all gov. issues.


Comment from Jill
Time: October 3, 2008, 3:47 pm

(entering ‘assholery’ into the Microsnot Word dictionary)

“Brown Girls for Biden, Homosexual Men for Sarah (Yellow Lady Undecided)and Lispy Ineffectual Reporters for themselves!”


Comment from Lemur King
Time: October 3, 2008, 4:33 pm

Man am I glad the bailout worked. Stocks are already responding reflecting renewed confidence.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=azrA7x5luEfY&refer=home


Comment from porknbean
Time: October 3, 2008, 4:40 pm

Have ya seen this LK?

bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=anZHfo6tQi60


Comment from porknbean
Time: October 3, 2008, 4:46 pm

How about this?

Section 110 (of the bailout) is the Democrat-backed “Assistance to homeowners” plan — driven by one of the bill’s key stated goals of “preserving homeownership.”

GENERAL.—To the extent that the Federal property manager holds, owns, or controls mortgages, mortgage backed securities, and other assets ecured by residential real estate, including multifamily housing, the Federal property manager shall implement a plan that seeks to maximize assistance for homeowners and use its authority to encourage the servicers of the underlying mortgages, and considering net present value to the taxpayer, to take advantage of the HOPE for Homeowners Program under section 257 of the National Housing Act or other available programs to minimize foreclosures.

(2) MODIFICATIONS.—In the case of a residential mortgage loan, modifications made under paragraph (1) may include—
(A) reduction in interest rates;
(B) reduction of loan principal; and
(C) other similar modifications.

——————-

So not only will the government strong arming of banks to lend to those who can’t afford to pay, continue….they will fix the price/interest of the loan to prevent any foreclosure. How can banks survive this? Why, it will come from our tax dollars, silly play-by-the-rules-schmucks. Everyone has a right to a home. It is only fair.
Unfrigginbelievable.

Barney Frank just did sloppy seconds on you.


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: October 3, 2008, 4:55 pm

It is Friday night. Be of good cheer!

bacon cat

This great nation has the spirit of bacon cat. We shall never fail.


Comment from Steamboat McGoo
Time: October 3, 2008, 5:09 pm

Is the poster (John Scalzi) The Scalzi ?!!?

The author?

Whoa….


Comment from Randy Rager
Time: October 3, 2008, 5:09 pm

Oh. Oh God. Weasel, I’m so so sorry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEOAh9RDIfI


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: October 3, 2008, 5:16 pm

Apparently, McGoo. I’m embarrassed to say, I’ve never heard of him. But apparently he survived taping bacon to a cat, so that’s pretty impressive right there.

What the hell is this?! That’s the second time this week one of you rotten minions has linked me to Weasel Stomping Day! Why now?


Comment from nbpundit
Time: October 3, 2008, 5:23 pm

Well wrap your weasely head around this factoid…
http://www.gulfcoastpundit.com/index.php?/forums/viewthread/16435/

Leave all hinges at home.


Comment from Randy Rager
Time: October 3, 2008, 5:30 pm

Oh hell. I’m sorry Weasel, I thought I was being original. And relevant. 😉 Silly me.

Here, this’ll take the taste outta yer mouth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq1w0syylZI&feature=related


Comment from Steamboat McGoo
Time: October 3, 2008, 5:36 pm

Oh, Man.

Weasel, I’ve read just about everything he’s written, I think. He writes hard SF and humorous SF among other things, and does it very well. I believe he’s been compared to Heinlein in his characterizations and plots. I recommend Old Man’s War, Ghost Brigade, and (aw, shit, I can’t remember the third title) (The Last Outpost? Colony?) (I refuse to look it up. It’ll come).

He will never get the Nobel in Lit, he has no “message”, he’s just a damned solid writer. IMHO, of course.


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: October 3, 2008, 5:37 pm

I wouldn’t mind, Randy, but that thing is a weapon’s grade earworm. Weird Al, not Brown.

Oh, NB…nothing beats the letter we got from Croydon Council about what to do in case of a burglary. I’m paraphrasing: some people feel most comfortable lying quietly in their beds waiting for the burglars to go away.

We’re not going there, though. We moved to the corner of England where the WASPs fled to.


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: October 3, 2008, 5:41 pm

Well now you can play on his blog, McGoo.

In my early days on Usenet — when the population online was relatively small — one of the great attractions was discovering authors I had read who were early adopters. Though it was usually more “people I had read” than “people I was a huge fan of.”


Comment from Steamboat McGoo
Time: October 3, 2008, 5:45 pm

First thing you need to do when you get over to Jolly Ol’ is to contact the Underground Guns-R-Us folks and get armed, Stoaty. They can only expel you from the country if you’re still alive.

I bet all your neighbors are secretly armed.


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: October 3, 2008, 5:49 pm

Not so secretly, McGoo. You can still get shotguns. You have to keep them locked in a gun cabinet, though. We hear gunfire across the fields quite regularly. In fact, you can buy game in the supermarket, and there’s a sign that tells you to watch out for embedded shot 🙂

They also sell some very fucking lethal crossbows, and some pretty hideously painful air guns and edged weapons.


Comment from Steamboat McGoo
Time: October 3, 2008, 5:57 pm

Scalzi’s site seems to be a hotbed of liberal posters and commenters. I’ll pass.


Comment from Steamboat McGoo
Time: October 3, 2008, 5:59 pm

Gonna take up sword-fighting, Stoaty! Hi-yaaah! Have at you!

I did not know you could still get shotguns there.

A crossbow. Now there is a nasty weapon.


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: October 3, 2008, 6:00 pm

Yeah, there was some really good historian — I honestly don’t remember which one — who had a similar website. I was all excited when I first found his site, because I’d read and liked some of his books.

Then I realized his commenters were moonbats and, while he claimed to be entirely apolitical, he seemed to be egging them on. I gave it a pass after a few days, too.


Comment from Steamboat McGoo
Time: October 3, 2008, 6:26 pm

Rats.

I’ll still read his stuff. If/When he uses his fame as a SF writer to advance his political agenda, then he will lose a fan.

It’s quiet, Weasel. Too quiet.


Comment from Mrs. Peel
Time: October 3, 2008, 7:07 pm

Dafydd ab Hugh wrote my favorite Star Trek novel (I know, I know…does it help if that one is my favorite because it is a clever pastiche of Star Trek novels?), and he blogs at Big Lizards. He’s a small L libertarian.


Comment from Steamboat McGoo
Time: October 3, 2008, 7:18 pm

Hi, Mrs. Peel!

At least I could talk to a libertarian. They’re of the same species as me, at least. H.sapiens, rather than H.doofii.


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: October 3, 2008, 7:36 pm

Oh, gosh. Many years ago, a good friend of mine gave me a Star Trek novel. He described it as ‘potato chips for the brain.’ It was HUGE fun. In fact, I ended up buying and reading a zillion of them.

All of the ones I read were surprisingly well-crafted and enjoyable.


Comment from Gnus
Time: October 3, 2008, 7:43 pm

Chalk up another Scalzi fan. The Old Man’s War is right in my wheelhouse.

It’s The Last Colony, McGoo. (I had to go look, and I’ve got it around here somewhere. Heh.) Zoe’s Tale is out now, too.


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: October 3, 2008, 7:45 pm

Heh. I’m getting a ton of Google hits on “does barney frank have teeth?”

And I’m on the bottom of the second page for it.


Comment from Gnus
Time: October 3, 2008, 7:50 pm

Found my copy of The Book of Poisonous Quotes and randomly opened it to this oddly prophetic saying, given the last week or so, from George Bernard Shaw…

You have set up in New York Harbor a monstrous idol which you call Liberty. The only thing that remains to complete the monument is to put on its pedestal the inscription written by Dante on the gate of Hell: “All hope abandon, ye who enter here.”


Comment from Steamboat McGoo
Time: October 3, 2008, 8:12 pm

What! Zoe’s Tale?

Nobody told me!


Comment from Steamboat McGoo
Time: October 3, 2008, 8:15 pm

Hee, hee! Don’t ya love it, Weasel!


Comment from harbqll
Time: October 3, 2008, 8:24 pm

Frequent lurker, occasional poster…

I met (briefly) John Scalzi at R.A.H.’s 100th birthday party last year. Got him to autograph some books for me.

I’d guess he’s a lib; he (and Ben Bova, actually) seemed a little offended by my ‘Nuke the Moon’ IMAO shirt.

I didn’t know Zoe’s Tale was out. Tho I see now that Amazon has it listed as a two-fer along with The Sagan Diary. Guess I know what I’ll be doing next weekend…


Comment from Steamboat McGoo
Time: October 3, 2008, 8:38 pm

Guess I know what I’ll be doing next weekend…

Likewise, harbqll.


Comment from Mrs. Peel
Time: October 3, 2008, 8:39 pm

Hi, McGoo! Glad you’re back.

Dafydd isn’t the nutjob kind like He Who Must Not Be Named, which is why I said “small L.” Basically, he just wants the gov’t to leave him alone. I generally agree with him or at the very least can see his point. (One major difference is that he is pro-choice [until higher brain functions develop, I think he says]. But he does understand that pro-lifers believe we are talking about a human, not a ball of cells, and has always shown respect for our position.)


Comment from Steamboat McGoo
Time: October 3, 2008, 9:12 pm

Thanks, Mrs. P!

Since I’m a pro-choicer too (and have given up hope of ever developing higher functions 🙂 ) I can understand his position. The Life/Choice is a really soft issue with me and one I can agree to gently disagree on quite comfortably. No biggie.

From what I read of the Scalzi site comments, they aren’t screaming, rabid Libs; just quietly hard-programmed. Hopeless, in otherwords.


Comment from Mrs. Peel
Time: October 3, 2008, 10:41 pm

We can all at least agree that if a late-term abortion fails and the baby is born alive, it should not be shut into a filthy supply closet to die cold and alone and hungry, right? (Not saying you should necessarily spend millions on trying to save it, especially if it really is pre-viable. But to toss it in a specimen dish and tell the nurse to take it down to the lab? While it’s still alive and breathing and everything? Surely we can all agree that that is callous beyond words.)


Comment from mccain PALIN ’08
Time: October 3, 2008, 11:24 pm

Rrrm, remind me again why you wanna move to UK? I know our ol’ redcoat friends across the pond are our allies and all, but it’s like moving to Canada + 20 years more advanced socialism. I assume you have fam there or somefring?


Comment from hitch-hiker
Time: October 3, 2008, 11:35 pm

Occasional reader – never posted…
Mrs. P., “callous” isn’t strong enough. If a baby is born alive and the mother doesn’t want it, let someone adopt who would want to care for it. I believe in the mother’s right to choose but think the choice should be made early on. Any baby born alive has the right to basic care and the chance to survive.


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: October 4, 2008, 3:34 am

Not so much a farm, M/P’08, just a farmhouse. A 16th Century farmhouse. With gigantic oak beams and a high, steep roof like a witch’s hat. When our house was built, Shakespeare was some obscure young actor.

Really, I’m going to have to put together a “you’re moving to England…why?” post.


Comment from Lokki
Time: October 4, 2008, 9:44 am

Shhhh…. you relax a little now, Weasel. Everything is going to be fine. You don’t need to explain “Why England?” We know.

Weasel’s Rhode Island house, is a very, very, very fine house
With a SOLD sign in the yard
Life used to be so hard
Now she’s off to England ’cause of you, Badger.

She’ll go to Badger now
And move her soul to Albion
Everything is done here for you two
Off to an cozy English cottage
Whose windows are illuminated
By the Badger’s candle lit for you, Weasel
A fiery gem waiting for you
Only for you

Weasel’s English house, is a very, very, very fine old house
With runnybabbits in the yard
Life used to be so hard
But now everything will easy for you two

Badger will light the fire
While Weasel places the flowers in the vase
That she brought for him
Staring at the fire
For hours and hours
While Weasel listens to Badger love songs
All night long for you two
Only for you two

With sincere but defiant apologies to Crosby, Stills, Nash, AND Young….


Comment from Dave in Texas
Time: October 4, 2008, 10:53 am

Civil Service is never service and rarely civil.


Comment from Jill
Time: October 4, 2008, 11:08 am

My two cents worth: I am fiercely Pro-Choice, because I am fiercely Pro-Child. I believe that every child has the right the best start in life that they can get. Women should have the right UP TO A POINT in their pregnancy to decide legally whether or not they should terminate or continue.

I’d like to line up against a wall every Pro-Life protester I’ve been subjected to and their big disgusting signs of aborted babies and kick them all squarely in their behinds.

I am against partial-birth abortions. If you cannot make a decision before the end of the first trimester, or are not aware before the end of the first trimester, there should be no alternative but birth and adoption. If you can’t bear to go through the difficult decisions associated with a live birth, well, then I’m sorry. With the number of birth control options out there, that’s just not a legitimate argument anymore.

Again, this is just my own personal opinion. I won’t debate my stance, nor will I debate anyone else’s with them. We are all entitled to our own opinions.

🙂


Comment from Stashiu3
Time: October 4, 2008, 12:23 pm

My two cents worth: I am fiercely Pro-Choice Pro-Life, because I am fiercely Pro-Child. I believe that every child has the right the best start in life that they can get. Women should have the right UP TO A POINT in their pregnancy sexual behavior to decide legally whether or not they should terminate or continue.

I’d like to line up against a wall every Pro-Life Pro-Choice protester I’ve been subjected to and their big disgusting signs of aborted babies and kick them all squarely in their behinds.

I am against partial-birth abortions murder. If you cannot make a decision before the end of the first trimester, or are not aware before the end of the first trimester having sex, there should be no alternative but birth and adoption. If you can’t bear to go through the difficult decisions associated with a live birth, well, then I’m sorry. With the number of birth control options out there, that’s just not a legitimate argument anymore.

Again, this is just my own personal opinion. I won’t debate my stance, nor will I debate anyone else’s with them. We are all entitled to our own opinions.
🙂


Comment from Uncle Badger
Time: October 4, 2008, 1:44 pm

Nice sentiments, Lokki.

However, no one listens to a badger’s lovesongs – and lives 😉


Comment from Enas Yorl
Time: October 4, 2008, 1:47 pm

*Clap clap clap clap!*
Bravo Stashiu! Well done.


Comment from porknbean
Time: October 4, 2008, 2:38 pm

The adoption industry has pretty much collapsed in this country. So many missed opportunities to make a family for so many childless couples because of the very profitable abortion factories.


Comment from jwpaine
Time: October 4, 2008, 3:41 pm

You want funny, try the earlier installments of The Destroyer series (when Sapir, not yet dead, was still co-writing them with Murphy). Totally mental potato chips, and with plenty of snort-laughs.

Jill: I’m with you. I think it’s a woman’s right to do whatever she wants to her body, but delaying a decision until partial-birth abortion is the only option is just stupid. Better to end both lives at that point. You know, sort of preventative maintenance of the gene pool.


Comment from Steamboat McGoo
Time: October 4, 2008, 3:53 pm

What jw said.


Comment from Jill
Time: October 4, 2008, 5:17 pm

Thanks jw and McGoo.

Stashiu, no offense, but I think you could have probably gotten your point across on your own.

After all, I did.


Comment from porknbean
Time: October 4, 2008, 5:43 pm

Even though the biggest supporters of abortion are males between the ages of 16 – 50 (gee, can’t figure that one out), what about the rights of males who do want their child?


Comment from jwpaine
Time: October 4, 2008, 6:18 pm

I believe the legal precedent of “Move Your Feet, Lose Your Seat” applies in this case, pnb. I suppose the woman could cheerfully refund the unused portion of the deposit, if the man were persistent in his complaint.


Comment from jwpaine
Time: October 4, 2008, 6:24 pm

…and I am opposed to abortion, myself. But then, I’m also opposed to Margaret Cho; I’m pretty sure, sadly, that I don’t have a right to compel the elimination of either.

But I do have the right to insist none of my money be used to subsidize them.


Comment from Hitch-Hiker
Time: October 4, 2008, 8:04 pm

Abortion is a topic that will always divide people. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. That’s a freedom many Americans fought & died for since this country was started.

Stashiu3 – I respect your opinion and hope you would do the same for others. Maybe you could express your opinion and beliefs without picking on someone else’s idea.

JW & Jill – You are certainly entitled to your opinions and I tend to agree with you.

I don’t like the idea of anti-abortionist trying to impose their will on others. The use of the terrible picture signs is awful. It certainly shouldn’t be up to someone else to force a woman to carry a child but that’s a decision she could certainly make in the first 3 to 5 months. It is a hard decision but it should be a decision and not a mandate.


Comment from jwpaine
Time: October 5, 2008, 11:55 am

We might wanna steer clear of this particular issue in the future. The airing of one’s opinion is rarely gratifying enough to warrant the ill will generated thereby.


Comment from Steamboat McGoo
Time: October 5, 2008, 12:02 pm

Yep, jw. But didja notice how the minions here – when confronted with disagreement – kinda stepped back, took a deep breath, and then just went with the flow rather than arguing and – ultimately – resorting to ad hom. attacks, etc.?

{And speaking of attacks – I wonder how ernesto’s doing about now? Hee, hee}

maturity? Or timidity? or are we all just too damned tired? Personally, I have been up those stairs too many times: my feet are tired. (paraphrased quote: identify the author and win respect.)


Comment from jwpaine
Time: October 5, 2008, 12:33 pm

I’m guessing that’s because the ratio of mature, respectful adults is much higher here than other places.

And too easy. RAH.


Comment from Steamboat McGoo
Time: October 5, 2008, 12:40 pm

I knew you’d get it, jw, because I know you’re well-read on RAH, and because you know I quote him a lot.

I’d like to believe so – about this site, that is.


Comment from jwpaine
Time: October 5, 2008, 12:54 pm

Yeah, Weez has built herself a pretty kettle of minions here (you and me and a couple others excluded, of course–bad actors all).

And yeah, I have everything Heinlein ever wrote (I’m re-reading SIASL right now, the unedited version), even his ill-advisedly-released “first” novel For Us, The Living, which is only of interest to completists like me (and probably you, too).


Comment from Steamboat McGoo
Time: October 5, 2008, 12:55 pm

Say? I haven’t mentioned peanut lady fuck recently.

There. It’s all better now. You’re welcome.


Comment from jwpaine
Time: October 5, 2008, 12:57 pm

In fact, the one RAH book I’m missing is Time Enough For Love. Used to own it (hardcover) but back then, I was way too trusting of people who wanted to borrow a book. Lost a first edition of Stephen King’s Night Shift that way. Still have the dust jacket, though, fat lot of good that does me.


Comment from jwpaine
Time: October 5, 2008, 1:00 pm

dang, how could I have forgotten all about peanut lady fuck? I must be slipping.

Um, slippinger.


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: October 5, 2008, 1:17 pm

Oh, dear. Have y’all all made nice already? I didn’t get a chance to outline MY abortion stand. Mine usually pisses everybody off. 🙂


Comment from jwpaine
Time: October 5, 2008, 1:33 pm

Have at it, Weez. I haven’t been offended in years. I think my offenderator is clogged.


Comment from Steamboat McGoo
Time: October 5, 2008, 2:10 pm

Yeah, Weaz! Make wit’ the offensive! Here I am! Do me!

(I bet W’s position exactly matches my actual views!)

And yes, I have read “For Us, The Wincing” and agree with you’re position, jw. SIASL was quite good, thirty years ago – but I fear it’s dated now. yes? I haven’t re-read it in decades.

Weaz – I want you to know I’m eyeing the Great Spooky Unknown area north of me, the tick activity (loooow), and my pile of woodsey-clothes & boots. There may be an adventure coming in the next day or so…


Comment from jwpaine
Time: October 5, 2008, 2:38 pm

yeah, it’s dated, but I’ve already recently read all the other Heinlein stuff I have (including the juveniles) and SIASL was next on the shelf. I may have to break down and buy another copy of TEFL.


Comment from porknbean
Time: October 5, 2008, 2:49 pm

I didn’t get a chance to outline MY abortion stand.

I didn’t either, really. Too tired yesterday and had to go to work.
One of the babies I lost, had died in utero at 11 weeks. He was tiny, but fully formed. A baby, not a clump of nothing.

I think women have been sold a bill of goods on the whole ‘choice’ thing. And I hope more and more places, like a couple here in town, will make available to women ultrasounds and adoption services. We also need to get back to marriage, monogamy, family, and the idea that men and women are different. Just look at the societal and psychological fallout from having stepped away from them.

I have told my daughter that she is the ‘keeper of the gate’. She has more at stake. If she respects herself and holds what she has as value, when she gets a young man, he will treat her as such.

———————–

“A general dissolution of Principles and Manners will more surely overthrow the Liberties of America than the whole Force of the common enemy. While the people are virtuous they cannot be subdued; but once they lose their virtue they will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first external or internal invader….If virtue and knowlege are diffused among the people, they will never be enslaved. This will be their great security.”
– Samuel Adams

——————————–

“Infancy’s the tender fountain,
Power may with beauty flow,
Mother’s first to guide the streamlets,
From them souls unresting grow –
Grow on for the good or evil,
Sunshine streamed or evil hurled
For the hand that rocks the cradle
Is the hand that rules the world.”
– William Ross Wallace


Comment from Steamboat McGoo
Time: October 5, 2008, 2:51 pm

TEFL is (I am sure) still available, although to get hardback you may have to order it or buy it used (or both). To get a genuine first edition you may have to mortgage your soul – or a reasonable facsimile thereof.

I ought to read it again. I still read the Foundation trilogy (now 5-6 books, I guess, but I mean the original three) every couple o’ years.

Stoaty – I think you’re a secret pro-lifer, clinic bomber, & past back-room mustalid abortionist who owns stock in the RU486 company. It’s a strange social dichotomy you’d just wallow in. That’s why you’re moving to England. To hide from both sides. I just know it! Now go ahead: just dare to say I’m wrong!


Comment from jwpaine
Time: October 5, 2008, 3:03 pm

Speaking of RAH, he postulated that the truest sign that a society was in serious trouble was a breakdown of common courtesy. Bill Whittle over at eject! eject! eject! pretty much fleshed that concept out (sorry, I can’t find the series of articles he wrote on the subject, but read anything over there; you’ll be impressed).


Comment from jwpaine
Time: October 5, 2008, 3:05 pm

And what Steam said about the clinic bomber mustelid thing.


Comment from Steamboat McGoo
Time: October 5, 2008, 3:13 pm

Yep, jw. RAH (may he rest in peace) indicated that manners are most important, and common courtesy is never more important than between friends or spouses.

What was that quote: “Manners are the critical lubricant for a social machine that works none too well to begin with”, or sumpin like that.

Leave out the lube and the machine seizes in no time.

I’m going to go outside and enjoy the sunshine and go look into the dark gloomy abyss up north. Ahem – I just happen to have put on my stealth-forest-asshole clothing. Now where is my Sig Sauer and my whoopee cushion? I believe I saw some bow-hunters go up there early this morning. Heh.


Comment from jwpaine
Time: October 5, 2008, 3:20 pm

remember not to make the graves too shallow. Don’t learn that the hard way, like I did.


Comment from Mrs. Peel
Time: October 5, 2008, 5:35 pm

I have told my daughter that she is the ‘keeper of the gate’.

One of these days, I’m going to write a self-help book entitled Men Are Gozer, Women Are Zuul.


Comment from Steamboat McGoo
Time: October 5, 2008, 7:55 pm

I had to look up those names, Mrs. P.


Comment from Mrs. Peel
Time: October 5, 2008, 11:03 pm

My friend didn’t laugh, either. *sigh*

Back when I “drew” a webcomic in college, I had a week with the theme “[Peel’s] Jokes Go Unappreciated.” Each day featured me telling a joke and being met with a blank stare. And all of them were true. (well, all but one.) For example, in one, I remarked that I’ve always called Mark McGwire the “Titian Terror,” which is a takeoff on Babe Ruth being the Titan of Terror and the fact that McGwire has red hair. The final panel read, “Suddenly, [Peel] realizes something,” followed by a Venn diagram of art history buffs and baseball history buffs. “If not for her, these sets would be disjoint. D’oh.”


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: October 6, 2008, 4:34 am

I operate under the MST3K Rule, Mrs P. If you get it, go ahead and make the damn joke already. If one person in a thousand also gets it, that one person will think you’re some kind of crazy sooper genius.

And if you do it right, it’s amazing how often the rest will think it’s funny without entirely getting it. Think how many Americans adore Monty Python without understanding what it is exactly they’re making fun of.


Comment from jwpaine
Time: October 6, 2008, 11:10 am

Monty Python was comedy? I thought it was the British version of C-SPAN.

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