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Welp, he’s gone. History’s most famous case of the Crazy Eye.

Y’all may recall I am (or used to be) muchly into True Crime, but I’ve never had much interest in Manson. He was a petty criminal who had spent more than half his life in prison when he was released in the late Sixties. He looked around at the shit going down and thought, “yeah, I can work with this.”

It’s not even certain whether he ever killed anyone his own self. He surely wasn’t anywhere near the scene of the famous murders. He egged other people on and mugged for the cameras.

A tiny, manipulative clown. And now he’s dead. Shame he lived so long.

And Mitchell has won the Dead Pool!

Good on yer, Mitchell. We shall reassemble here Friday for the next one. Which is good – I’ve got a seminar to go to Friday that includes four hours of car travel. I ain’t going to be fit to post.


Comment from Durnedyankee
Time: November 20, 2017, 8:54 pm

Is that a photo of Judy Garland discovering she’s not in Kansas any more?

I know it can’t be Charlie because it doesn’t have that ancient swastika good luck charm sign engraved in the forehead.

And the eyeliner say ‘woman’ and it’s in black and white which rules out Brucette Jenner or Chelsea (un)Manning.

Comment from Hutch
Time: November 20, 2017, 9:18 pm

Crap. I’ll be out of town and incommunicado on Friday.

Comment from Durnedyankee
Time: November 20, 2017, 9:59 pm

No, that IS Charlie! – pre swastika days.

Hmmm he could have undergone elective surgery to become Charline and maybe this whole tragedy could have been avoided.

Comment from Ric Fan
Time: November 20, 2017, 10:19 pm

Yes, he was a con, yet, idiots did, and still do, think he had/has some great knowledge. It’s scary. I suspct these people want to murder but dont have the guts, thank God.

Comment from tonycc
Time: November 20, 2017, 10:23 pm

He was just ahead of his time, he would have fit in well with some of the Antifa types now a days.

I hope to never hear his name again.

Comment from Eirik
Time: November 20, 2017, 10:42 pm

He was never convicted of killing anyone directly, though it’s been long beleived that he killed at least a couple (a music teacher he had a drug deal with and a stunt man at the Spawn ranch where they all lived).

He was at the scene of the La Bianca murders, though. He went in and tied them up before ordering his “family” to kill them.

Comment from Mitchell
Time: November 20, 2017, 11:18 pm

Yay! I’m a Winner! *\o/*
Do you still have my address from the time I won the beans?

Comment from Mitchell
Time: November 20, 2017, 11:31 pm

No, wait I don’t live there anymore! Don’t use that address. I’ll shoot you an email.

Comment from Veeshir
Time: November 21, 2017, 1:17 am

Yay! Now that’s a dick-win I can celebrate.

Comment from Deborah HH
Time: November 21, 2017, 2:52 am

@Hutch—Remember: diving into the Dead Pool last has resulted in a lot of winners.

@tonycc—I agree with you. I hope to never hear his name again.

Comment from dissent555
Time: November 21, 2017, 4:29 am

Congrats Mitchell. Well timed pick.

Comment from Allen
Time: November 21, 2017, 7:49 am

For some reason they moved him to Kern County Hospital (the county I live in) when he reached the deathbed stage. I wouldn’t send my mother-in-law to that hospital.

At any rate, Manson died in Bakersfield, Ha, Bakersfield! I’d rather be in Philadelphia than Bakersfield.

Though I must admit I would go to Buck Owens’ honky tonk on occasion. Now there’s a blast from the past, The Hee Haw show. I always did enjoy the dancing cartoon pigs.

Comment from S. Weasel
Time: November 21, 2017, 8:02 am

@Mitchell: assume I don’t. We’re in the middle of switching ISPs and I’m unsure about finding old emails.

Comment from Ric Fan
Time: November 21, 2017, 9:57 am

“He was never convicted of killing anyone directly….”

Irrelevant. He was convicted of conspiracy to commit murder which is the same as murder under the law. But for Manson, all those people would be alive. He set it all in motion.

I hope Brown blocks Van Houten’s parole again. I bet she argues that now Manson is dead he no longer has a hold on her. Never understood how anyone could follow that creep.

Comment from Ric Fan
Time: November 21, 2017, 11:33 am

Sorry, Eirik. I see you were addressing stoaty’s comment.

Slightly interesting factoid: I live not far from the LoBianca house and had a friend who lived near by. After the murders, people on that street put up these yuge iron bar fences and nailed their windows shut. Heard people nailed their windows shut when the night stalker was on the loose, too. That way no one would forget and leave a window open or unlocked. Not a bad idea if you have A/C.

Comment from Wolfus Aurelius
Time: November 21, 2017, 1:15 pm

Two comments only about Charlie: When he arrived in Hell, he probably nodded to Satan and said, “Thanks for keeping the seat warm for me, buddy. I’ll take it from here.”

The other: In Robert Vaughn’s memoir A Fortunate Life, he mentions how he began to have his hair cut by this new Hollywood guy who called himself a “hair stylist,” Jay Sebring. Several times during 1963-1969, Sebring invited Vaughn, still a bachelor, to hang out with him and his friends, including Sharon Tate (who had done a tiny role on The Man from U.N.C.L.E.). For no reason he could recall, Vaughn turned him down — including the last invitation in early August of 1969. If RV had accepted that evening, well, let’s just say we’d be calling it the “Vaughn-Tate Murders” now. . . .

Comment from Ric Fan
Time: November 21, 2017, 6:49 pm

Charlie Rose got canned!

Two Charlies, Both Gone…

Comment from Niña
Time: November 21, 2017, 7:08 pm

Yeah, but dead careers don’t count. 😜

Comment from Steve Skubinna
Time: November 22, 2017, 6:07 pm

Manson was one of the most evil SOBs of our time, but he was also a boring one. Really nothing interesting about him at all, and I never really understood how he maintained such a hold on his followers.

Yeah, he was great at using sex and drugs for manipulation… as was Jim Jones (who I consider Manson’s bookend). Funny how the usual narrative is that Manson signaled the “end of the sixties,” while I have always considered him and Jim Jones as marking their own peculiar decade.

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