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From Ace:

And Lo, Jesus appeared among the throng, and he spake, saying, “Is it not the CIA which created AIDS? And the American government which provides crack to blacks? And Yay and verily, is it not true that black on black crime is only wrong because it’s blacks fighting ‘the wrong enemy’? And shouldn’t they be killing the ‘right enemy’ instead, if you know what I mean, and I think you do?”

And Jesus cried “God Damn America!” and it so was damned, and by the way, FDR blew up Pearl Harbor too, chickens roosting explosively along the hull of the USS Arizona, as God decreed.

Damned right this is not going anywhere good, Weaz. I foresee baaaad things when ‘marchin’ weather’ gets here. Can anyone say ‘1968’?

And I have to admit, this is beginning to get under my calm, even-tempered, sugary-sweet skin.

Heh. I just read that at Ace’s.

When I was looking up this group today, I ran across a Chicago Tribune article from over a year ago about Obama and Wright and the church and the trouble it was likely to cause. Obama hadn’t even formally announced yet. So it’s been simmering all this time.

I don’t see anything sinister in the timing. I think it exploded now because somebody watched the videos. Hearing that so-and-so made inflammatory remarks, and watching tape of someone screaming “God DAMN America!” are two completely different emotional exercises.

I hope you’re right, Weaz. I’m having to periodically remind myself to not waste energy and spirit being pissed about these remarks. They are getting under my skin.

It is precisely because our country is so magnificent that this shit-fo’-brains ingrate can say those outrageous things publicly and remain free.

Utter stupidity always did piss me off.

McGoo: “this” (which is getting under your skin) being identity politics or versifying?

Of course, these people probably coveniently ignore the fact that the people who enslaved them to begin with, who sold them to the Europeans and Americans, were the Muslim conquerors.

As someone whose skin is not white, I disagree with your hesitation to discuss race issues. White is a race, or so it is claimed. Equal to all others, then, right? And for that matter, what is right and true is right and true regardless who says it or what the speaker’s skin color is.

This hesitation seems racist. Or racialist.

Just my 2 paise.

“They” weren’t slaves. Their parents weren’t slaves. “I” – as a whitey – don’t owe them limp dick, even though my great, great grandfather owned a bunch of ’em.

Yes, I know some of the history of the slave-trade, and essentially all his remarks are factually inaccurate.

Yes, I know some of the history of the slave-trade, and essentially all his remarks are factually inaccurate.

History and reality is set aside for the sake of identity politics, for the sake of what gives the supposedly aggreived party an advantage. It’s a shame, really.

Yep. Weaz said it right at the beginning: this is not going anywhere good.

I’m just glad it’s over there on the Left Side.

Note to all Conservatives: Do not engage! Do not engage! Stay out of it!

This sounds like the infamous threats Muslim clerics use that they will not be able to control the rage their young men have whenever something they don’t like happens.

Note to all Conservatives: Do not engage! Do not engage! Stay out of it!

McGoo: Why? Why be silent about truth and let idiots have their say unchecked?

I don’t mean to offend or stoke anyone. I’m just puzzled why this issue is politely ignored when it should be tackled and wrestled until it cries out “Uncle!” Maybe I’m wrong. (And considering it’s 2-to-1 so far, I likely may be.)

It’s not going anywhere pretty, but that’s the nature of the issue. And part of the cause/reason lies with the idiot identity politickers.

(And unless Her Highness says otherwise, this is my last comment in this thread on this issue. If she and others would rather not go on about this, I’ll respect their wishes.)

I saw the Liberty Bell in person. Back in the 90s. It was cool.

I’m so intrigued how we Americans have such quasi-sacred shrines.

Liberty Bell, Statue of Liberty, Constitution, Congress, Supreme Court, Washington Memorial, Lincoln Memorial, et cetera.

Oh no! I kill the blog!

Kill. How South Asian Muslim of me.

The reason I said don’t engage is that all this is amongst the Dems. It’s conflicting segments of a flawed ideology and agenda-driven MSM hypocrisies that are grinding gears here, and I’d just as soon see it crash and burn. If Cons engage, I assure you it’ll all be blamed on us.

The falsehood of those distasteful utterances is easily demonstrated. But debate is only useful when open and reasonably dispassionate minds are involved. That situation does not obtain here. I have nothing against others debating this stuff: I have better things to do with my time, and I question that a satisfactory dialog is even possible at this time.

No ediebear – I meant “let em choke on their own hypocrisy!”

I have no fear of conservative tempers. Do a lexis-nexis search on pol violence: It seems to always be the Lefties that slash tires and put nooses on doors and write hate notes.

Ah, good point, McGoo.

You are right: we on the Right are more sensible. And we can’t convince the Left. So what’s the use. I see now.

Hahaha…relax, Musli. I was just commuting home. I brought the topic up, so I’m not entirely averse to it.

But I think white cringe comes from two sources: one, we really were profoundly shitty to black people for a very long time. I think we’re less embarrassed about slavery (which was such a long time ago and which we fought a horrible war to put right), than the stupid, petty shit we did…like make them drink out of separate water fountains. I mean, that’s just spite.

Secondly, there are many different sub-groups to the racial grievance camp, and they believe different — and sometimes quite contradictory — things.

For example, one group promotes the idea that the way black people play with language is profoundly creative. Another recoils in horror at the suggestion that black people, outside the ghetto, speak any differently than white people. Another group believes that black people speak the way they do because they first learned English from ignorant white people in the South (I haven’t heard that one in a long time, but it was a great favorite).

Now, what do you say?

When I was a kid, white people had opinions about race. When I got older, we were afraid to have opinions, and we just asked what it was we were SUPPOSED to believe and we tried to believe that. Now, we know there nothing we can say that won’t get “racist!” shouted at us, so we try our damnedest not to talk about it at all.

Exactly, Musli. And – I hate to admit it – the Left is really good at spinning and “nuancing” words and concepts. Better’n Righties, I dare say. Righties have a habit of intellectual honesty, and we automatically assume it in others: Lefties have no such compulsions. They confuse appearing to win the argument with being right, so the end automatically justifies the means.

Musli – was that a touch of sarcasm I detected?

If these fucktards are going to grievance monger, then they should know all of the facts of slavery before they demand squat. Slavery, is just another tool the underbelly of humanity does to one another. If you are going to talk about it, talk about all of it. No culture/persons are immune from the stain.

As regards to the ‘recent’ in memory slave trade –

Who sold who?
Who benefited most?
Who did it for ideology, who for greed?

White slavery started about the same time as black slavery, but noone brings that up. For 300 hundred years both went on. Rogue euros and muslim pirates trolled the seven seas and kidnapped many a hapless ship or village and sold them to their muslim masters in N. Africa and arab states. Not many records were kept (beyond the many pleas on record in various Euro gov. archives) because their life was not worth squat to their illiterate masters (same crap with Rwanda, Darfur, noone knows the actual body count because they don’t count their dead – they mean nothing to them). On the other hand, whites tend to keep record of their ‘property’ because at some level they gave them value – inhumane as it was.

Long story short, eventually – after 300 years – the Euro wusses got sick of the raids and kidnapping and paying/negotiating to get their citizens out of horrific conditions, that they passed laws first to end the African slave trade. Then they sent a descendant of a white slave to blow the shit out of Algiers. The US ended it here 30 years later. The white Christian west had to take the rest of the world kicking and screaming to denounce slavery.

But, of course, it still continues in it’s place of origin – N. Africa and the ME – and noone says a word other than to point the finger at the great white satans.

As far as the dingbat shakedown artists above…screw ’em and the schools they refuse to hold to account and the lack of curiosity in general. Though how do you get the truth through to blockheads?

‘Christian Slaves, Muslim Masters’ – Robert C. Davis
‘White Gold’ – Giles Milton
‘Black Rednecks and White Liberals’ – Thomas Sowell (Mr. Sowell touches on the subject throughout many of his writings.)

Brrrr…..

Aw, man! That ex gov & wife accused of having a three-way has CONFIRMED it!

He just took the wind out of sooooo many sails…

Smart guy.

the Left is really good at spinning and “nuancing” words and concepts. Better’n Righties, I dare say

The right deals in facts. The left owns the schools and the media so that facts never taint brains of mush which must be kept mushy.

McGoo: No, no, no. No sarcasm. I truly never saw it that way, but your perspective explains why people are hesitant to engage in this debate.

Your Highness: Don’t put the whites down so swiftly. Compared to today, yes, whites were not very pleasant indeed. But most other people are far more racist than whites are and/or were. Consider the Japanese in Japan. (Lokki might be able to help clarify or admonish me on this.)

I don’t think others make other races drink from separate drinking fountains, but at least that means that whites and blacks were in the same building. In most other countries, every people has their place and they had better stay there.

Consider being a brown person in the United Arab Emirates, and having Arabs treat one as an ignorant, illiterate, uncultured rube…simply because most South Asians there are laborers. Not a hypothetical. I experienced it firsthand. They didn’t care to find out whether I was one of said laborers. Their entire attitude towards the entire race was so colored. (Heh. I make pun.)

Now the mental merry-go-’round, that’s another matter all together.

Frankly, I think Ebonics is an abomination. People must learn to speak well to move forward, and enabling people to speak atrocious English does the black community no favors whatsoever.

Do you have a link McGoo? I saw that story last night. Are they – the gov and wife – now saying the dude making the accusation is correct?

Slavery is still permissable in Islam.

Indeed, the people who oppose abolishing slavery among Muslims the most are…the clerics. They decry this abolitionism as an anti-Islamic Crusader perversity.

But no one brings that up.

McGoo and p’n’b: Who’re you talking about? Spitzer?

Musli – no, (heh!) its a different ex gov. (McGreevey). See lead story at Aces.

No, PnB. He confirms, she’s still denying. I don’t care either way – its all hilarious.

I’m starting to think every elected official is doin’ the ol’ buggly-ugly constantly. In meetings, in the elevator, in the limos, on air flights.

As a matter of fact – I bet everyone is doing it whenever I leave the room! Yer all bangin’ away – right?

Ebonics –

Much of the cultural pattern of Southern rednecks became the cultural heritage of Southern blacks, more so than survivals of African cultures, with which they had not been in contact for centuries. (Even in colonial time, most blacks on American soil had been born on American soil.) Moreover, such cultural traits followed blacks out of the southern countrysides and into the urban ghettos – North and South – where many settled. The very way of talking, later to be christianed “black English”, closely followed dialects brought over from those parts of Britain from which many white Southerners came, though these speech patterns died out in Britain while surviving in the American South, as such speech patterns would later die out among most Southern whites and among middle-class blacks, while surviving in the poorer black ghettos around the country.

i.e. ‘dis’, ‘ax’, ‘dat’, ‘I be’, ‘you be’, ‘I hain’t’
– from ‘Black Rednecks, White Liberals’, Thomas Sowell

Bottom line, the proponents of ebonics are just encouraging their kids to be like the ignorant southern white folks they despise. Putzes.

McGoo, unless there are known pictures, the wife needs to sue the boy toy and her pervy ex for defamation. Or accidently push him down some stairs.

May their collective wieners fester and fall off.

McGreevey. Oh, what a vile man.

I have little sympathy for married men dallying with other men. Actually, scrap that. I have no sympathy for them.

Am I the only one who believes the urge to fornicate/adulterate is something that can be (and ought to be) controlled? I feel like an alien in this mass of every-man-boinking-someone-he-should-not-be-boinking.

Weaz – I can’t cut and paste part of Musli’s last post to quote in mine.

Is that a feature or an artifact of his post still being in “edit” mode (I assume)? Never mind. It stopped fucking with me.

Musli –

Frankly, I think Ebonics is an abomination. People must learn to speak well to move forward, and enabling people to speak atrocious English does the black community no favors whatsoever.

For decades I have asserted that if the blacks in this country wanted to do ONE thing to improve race relations and (I believe) give whites a better impression of them – it would be to LEARN THE DAMNED LANGUAGE AND PRONOUNCIATION!

I am sorry, but “jive” and “ebonics” screams – SCREAMS – ignorance, laziness, and sloth to many otherwise neutral and dispassionate whites.

Sorry if that sounds racist.

“…doin’ the ol’ buggly-ugly constantly. In meetings, in the elevator, in the limos, on air flights.”

And McSkeevey’s case, after dinner at TGIFriday’s, of course.

Which I find profoundly disturbing.

PS Only thing I’m bangin’ away at is my keyboard.

I grew up in a black neighborhood, and went to mostly black and hispanic schools, so I kind of feel like I have a pretty good understanding of this subject.

I know as a white guy, I just cannot, as McGoo says, engage, in it at all, especially with anyone of color, at least that grew up in the U.S. It’s off limits, period.

Eventually, no matter how much logic or reason you employ, it’ll come to the inevitable “You can’t possibly ever understand, because you’re white.” End of discussion.

PnB – she can perform scientific experiments on them. Then push them down the stairs.

Weaz – I can’t cut and paste part of Musli’s last post to quote in mine.

Hm. Dunno, McGoo. I’m logged in as a civilian now, and I cut and pasted just fine. Somebody else mentioned a cut and paste problem the other day — jw, maybe? — and that was before post edit. Sooooo…intermittent bug? I dunno.

Try cut/paste as a civilian on a very fresh comment (like this one) – one that presumably is still in edit-option mode.

It’ll highlight, but the “copy” command is grayed out.

Not bitchin’ ya unnerstan.

“ebonics” screams – SCREAMS – ignorance, laziness, and sloth

Yep. It screams ‘cracker’. See my above quote.
They think they are embracing black heritage, but if they knew the truth….

Try cut/paste as a civilian on a very fresh comment (like this one) – one that presumably is still in edit-option mode.

Was this fresh enough?

I guess it was a dream, Weaz. Sorry.

Eh. No, it is happening, I just dunno under what circumstances.

I had a thought that it might be (new post)*and*(still in edit-option)*and*(owner-actively-editing-post)*and*(attempted cut/paste by second party).

…or whatever. I guess to find out you’ll have to synchronize with another person.

Ace is reporting that now the Rev “Racist-Mouth” Wright’s videos are being “disappeared” from YouTube. Can’t imagine why.

God do I love it watching the Left trying to ‘cover up on a tile floor”.

I saw that. That’s pretty damned scandalous. And it was first noticed by NRO, so that’s pretty damned visible.

They’re risking doing themselves more harm than good here.

They’re thinking with their knee-jerk, self-centered emotions – and their emotions right now are saying, “Hide it. Cover it up. Make it go away. Make it not be. Deny it.”

Pathetic, emotionally immature fucktards.

(Leftard)
Get with the program. Reality is what we say it is. If it’s no longer there, it never existed.
(/Leftard)

Editing adds another dimension to posting, eh Musli?

I am liking it a lot.

The plugin rats on you, though. I don’t know what you said, but I know “Your commentators have edited their comments 55 times.”

Hey, you can experiment with weird-ass stuff like character entities now, with impunity.

Like, if you wanted to put those ‘code’ fragments in angle brackets, you could type &lt ; stuff &gt ;. If you eliminate the spaces between the first ampersand and the last semicolon, that comes out <stuff>

I love it, McGoo.

I bet next WordPress will give out helpful info like, “Your commentator Muslihoon edited his/her comment 359 times, and his/her social security number is XXX-YY-ZZZZ.”

Codes? But that’s too difficult. Too much work. *whine*

Oh, that’s okay, then. I just like being able to post a < on the web. People are always, like, “hey, you can’t…what the…?…how’d you…?”

One of the things that fascinates me is meeting Blacks from Africa or the Carribean or Europe. They’re a lot more like me in terms of their attitudes and ambitions. It never occurs to them to carry a chip on their shoulders. They want to get their share of the cash, and be happy just like everyone else.

Therefore I’ve come to the conclusion that the current state of Black American culture is exactly that: Cultural.

I admit to having worried a bit about what will would happen when if Obama were elected.

If da man is keeping them down, but Obama becomes the man, but they don’t get up, then what happens? Obama very much becomes the little man at the top of the stairs.

I think that Black American Culture would literally implode.

The fact that Obama now won’t be elected will be put down to racism rather than his politics and that means business as usual for the racebaiters.

Oh cool – weasel web knowledge!
<Carson> That’s just wild!</Carson>

WHOOT!

No, no…the semicolons! Go back and put in the semicolons!

Edit: there! That’s got it.

Weaz – you remind me of an ancient programming trick:

My Dad used to teach Fortran at the local college just for fun – and to get out of the house. On his quiz on printing techniques he would alway put a question: Write the code to print the following – “John’s dog is black.”

Note the apostrophe on the word John’s.

If you didn’t get that printed, then you got points taken off. If I recall correctly, to print a literal apostrophe, you had to use two apostrophes (”) without space. Or sumpin like that.

Lokki – you give me the courage to say that – I think – the black man’s worst enemy in America today is himself.

Hey. I’m white. I hang with whites. Lots of whites. All my life. I KNOW FOR FACT that the majority of us whites I’ve met and known don’t have anything against the black race.

But the majority of us whites have a LOT against self-serving faux victim-hood (irrespective of color) used as nothing more than an excuse for failing, for not trying, or a free meal ticket.

Like anyone else, whites don’t like being played for a chump.

Aw, rats. Ola Brunkert, drummer for ABBA is dead by misadventure. Managed to cut his own throat.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=536848&in_page_id=1770

Stoaty,
That was me that couldn’t cut and paste from someone else’s comments, on my werk ‘puter. It was weird.

“Like anyone else, whites don’t like being played for a chump.”

Seems to work from home base.

“Home base” is so racist. Surely you meant hizzouse bizzase, yes? (I meant, yizzase. Or something.)

To-bac-co
Stupid way to spend your dough
You’ll end up bein’ po
End up smellin like a ho (ho ho)
But if you’d care
To have white teeth and silky hair
Keep it if you dare:
Word of Wizzum…it’s rare!

Word of Wizzum
Is the shizzum
Keeps me clear of plop plop fizzum
Keep your toxins far from me
I’m only drinkin’ herbal tea.
Drugs I know won’t help me grow
So I’m prepared to just say no.
Keep my vessel spic and span
So I get to the Promised Land.

I think Pupster will get that. 😉

Elder-Bonics.

Yes!

I will boogie for my wages
With that rock and roll of ages
We’re a spiritchal sensation and a triple combination
We’ll be lovin’ one another
I said word unto your brother
Sons of Provo, this is who we are.
…
When upon life’s billows,
I can’t figure things out
With my crazy Mormon posse
We’ll sing and we’ll shout!

It’s from a move called Sons of Provo, a mockumentry about a Mormon boyband called Everclear. (The three actors even toured Utah after the movie came out, performing like they were a real band. I was impressed that the actors actually sang their own songs.)

Most of the songs make fun of Mormonia in a tongue-in-cheek way. The songs are hilarious. This excerpt is from their song “Everclear”. The quote in the previous comment was from the song “Word of Wizzum”.

One of the things that fascinates me is meeting Blacks from Africa or the Carribean or Europe. They’re a lot more like me in terms of their attitudes and ambitions. It never occurs to them to carry a chip on their shoulders.

YES! While in college, I befriended a young man from Nigeria. Nicest guy you would ever meet. It pained him to say it, but he did not like a lot of the black Americans he came across. They gave him a lot of shit over his accent and the darkness of his skin and didn’t want much to do with him. And that was his conclusion – they had a chip on their shoulders that he could not understand. He loved being here and couldn’t understand why they were so negative.

Thing was many of these kids came from the same failing school district I went to…deseg, the whole thing. I had to work my patootie off double shifts to afford to go, they got a free ride due to the quota/affirmative action most state schools have in place. That was another thing that made my Nigerian friend shake his head….they liked to rub his face in it.

That sucks McGoo. What a way to go.
But would you rather go that way or be married to Madonna?
I bet she is a very difficult person to live with. She has the look of my part-barfly grandmother.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=537288&in_page_id=1773

Hey-hey! Hours after being sworn into office, the NEW gov of NY (Blind Melanin Paterson) admitted he had an affair. Late news: AoS says the Govs wife admits to one too! It never ends!

I wonder what she looked like? His story can only be described as … touching.

I called it! Every damned gov in the country is busy schtupping someone they shouldn’t be…I wonder what MO’s gov is doing, and with whom, and with what battery-operated accessories?

The image of all these thousands of elected wieners in Washington – erect and waving around – is more than I can bear.

Everything is going to shit in the world, and I’m gonna watch!

On the subject of European racial problems, I think it’s perhaps worth saying that there is a distinct tension in the UK (erupting in violence from time to time) between blacks of Caribbean descent and those more recently arrived from Africa. The latter are more likely to be as porknbean describes her Nigerian friend, the former blessed with the attitude problem you’re speaking of.

The victimhood theme is one encouraged by our Leftists, too.

Without victims to “help” with our tax dollars – and to use to “shame” everyone else – , how else can Liberals feel good about themselves?

…watching Obama live now…so far, it’s a bunch of nothin’.

Better. He blamed the problems in the Middle East on Islam.

He blamed the problems in the Middle East on Islam.

Good, now all he needs to do is rightly blame the problems in our country on liberalism and I might give him a moment’s thought.

Well, no, dude is solidly Marxist. That’s not changing.

It’s an okay speech. I guess. I’m not the intended audience.

Weasel, you already have a Skype account – you should totally do this: Phone Prank.

Heh. I don’t have it at work, Enas. Shoot, I can’t even read your comment section at work 🙂

Enas is evil! I love that!

Ah that’s too bad. Hang on a minute – didn’t you used to be able to nip onto another non-work wireless internet connection on your laptop, or am I misremebering something?

Enas is evil?

Cool! I’m gonna go hang out over there.

I used to be able to steal signal from a conference center next door, but they moved us. There is a coffee shop nearby that has free wifi, but I haven’t investigated. I know I can’t snag a signal from here (shoot, I can’t even get cellphone coverage from here).

The best explanation of why Whites adore Obama that I’ve read yet.
In the Wall Street Journal

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120579535818243439.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries

” How to turn one’s blackness to advantage?

The answer is that one “bargains.” Bargaining is a mask that blacks can wear in the American mainstream, one that enables them to put whites at their ease. This mask diffuses the anxiety that goes along with being white in a multiracial society. Bargainers make the subliminal promise to whites not to shame them with America’s history of racism, on the condition that they will not hold the bargainer’s race against him. And whites love this bargain — and feel affection for the bargainer — because it gives them racial innocence in a society where whites live under constant threat of being stigmatized as racist. So the bargainer presents himself as an opportunity for whites to experience racial innocence. “

Tell you what, Weaz, when you leave that company they’ll get no more of my business! harumph!

Meanwhile, we just *may* come out of this Supreme Court thing with an intact, individually applicable 2nd Amendment interpretation.

I am feeling cautiously woot-like sensations right about now. But its still early and our collective gun-owning asses are still hanging out…

Naw, I like this company fine, McGoo (I’m coming up on my 25th anniversary; I’d be a real booboo if I hung around that long and hated it). It’s this particular office I don’t like. Oh, and our IS staff — I been rasslin’ those guys for decades.

I’m about to be a non gun owner 🙁

IS = internet security? internal security? international science?

Lokki-

I’m sure the whites he speaks of are liberals. Me, as a regular person, disdain phoneys/bargainers/posers.

Ahhh…sorry. Information Services. Computer people. Except, they’re not.

My department (the art department!) had the first PC in the company. The sciency types were forbidden to have such preposterous toys — they had those big ol’ tape things in the basement. In the early days, our IS people often bragged that they didn’t own home computers. They were real computer professionals.

You can imagine how useless they were when you had a computer problem.

You can imagine how useless they were when you had a computer problem.

LOL! Hold a grudge much there Weasel? 😉