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Toilet paper, bro? Really?

If I’m going to give the authorities a clear photo of me participating in a massive riot, I’m going to want to get an Xbox or a flat screen TV out of it. What say, Baltimore?

Pringles and sweet tea? Doritos? Diapers? Toilet paper? What is that, boxes of YooHoo? Six packs of cigarettes?

Okay, to be fair, cigarettes are pretty expensive.

They all look so happy, though, don’t they?


Comment from Uncle Al
Time: April 28, 2015, 9:50 pm

Maybe his bae sent him out for TP, so he grabbed some along with whatever other loot was handy. But he may actually have gone into the CVS looking for cigarettes not knowing that last year CVS stopped selling tobacco entirely. What would you do if that happened to you? Eh? Eh? TP doesn’t seem like such a bad idea now, does it? Especially when high-end toilet paper is getting pretty expensive, too.

(Yes, “high-end” was deliberate. I’m so ashamed.)

Comment from Sigivald
Time: April 28, 2015, 10:41 pm


Comment from Skandia Recluse
Time: April 28, 2015, 11:11 pm

Nah, he paid for his purchases. That’s why the store clerk bagged them. He’s safe.

Comment from Subotai Bahadur
Time: April 29, 2015, 12:19 am

It may be a rational decision, for some limited values of rational; given that they are burning their own neighborhood.

TP and paper goods are not covered by “Food Stamps” [actually EBT cards now]. The Pringles, sweet tea, YooHoos, etc. may be a normal part of the local food pyramid.

They will, of course, complain vociferously that the local stores are closed and they have to go farther to buy food. I have seen it before. In Capitol Hill in Denver, there used to be a large Safeway that served a then economically depressed area. Grocery stores operate on about a 5% or less profit margin. Shoplifting and the workman’s comp insurance for employees injured by the local yutes ate that up and then some. They closed. And were lambasted for being heartless and racist.

Comment from Davem123
Time: April 29, 2015, 12:59 am

That’s just Neil deGrasse Tyson, heading home with his TP and some 40s of malt liquor. Bill Nye is bringing by some Popeye’s chicken later.

Comment from Jeff Gauch
Time: April 29, 2015, 1:48 am

I miss the Riot Act,

Comment from DeShmontavious Simkins IV
Time: April 29, 2015, 2:52 am

Dey b supportinz da ecomony, yo.
One po-po wagon done burnt, union shop in DaToilet will send anutha.
JayZ and wooTang clan will record an anthem to the holy martyr Freddy G. Sales will go quintuple iridium (gotta launder den Franklins).
Shteven Shpeelburg and Clint Eastwood will explain to the great unwashed how to feel about it.

The “West” looked at what was done to Rhodesia and later on to SA. If anything the West rooted and applauded the Morlocks. So what’s a few rolls of TP in a big scheme of things?

Comment from Oceania
Time: April 29, 2015, 11:54 am

Fascinating … just Fascinating …

Comment from Anonymous
Time: April 29, 2015, 12:28 pm

Why no discussion of what happened when the “Law Enforcement” transporting Mr. Gray to his death stopped three times for unexplained reasons?

Why no discussion of why the “Law Enforcement” officers involved, EACH of whom lied on their written reports of the incident, are merely “suspended” instead of in jail, as any Mere Citizen would be?

Yes, the looters are bad and dumb. But they have NOTHING on the damnable swill passing itself off as “Law Enforcement” across the US today.

Comment from Some Vegetable
Time: April 29, 2015, 12:59 pm

This rioting in Baltimore troubles me on a deep level that I can’t quite explain. I think it is because that I am (just) old enough to remember the Watts riots in Los Angles of 1965-exactly 50 years ago. The Watts riots left a strong impression on me as a young student. Blacks were being treated badly, it was wrong, and it was my fault as a White. Since then we have had educational reforms, innumerable social programs enacted, forced school integration, forced neighborhood integration,police reforms, great social acceptance (think Black President freely elected), and billions and billions and billions spent. One would think that 50 years would be enough time to show some (if minimal) social progress.

Does anyone here remember what triggered the 1965,Watts riots? I just looked it up:

On Wednesday, 11 August 1965, Marquette Frye, a 21-year-old black man, was arrested for drunk driving on the edge of Los Angeles’ Watts neighborhood. The ensuing struggle during his arrest sparked off 6 days of rioting, resulting in 34 deaths, over 1,000 injuries, nearly 4,000 arrests, and the destruction of property valued at $40 million. On 17 August 1965, Martin Luther King arrived in Los Angeles in the aftermath of the riots. His experiences over the next several days reinforced his growing conviction that the Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC) should move north and lead a movement to address the growing problems facing black people in the nation’s urban areas.

Frye had been drinking, and was driving with his brother, Ronald, in the car, when the two were pulled over two blocks from their home. While Marquette was being arrested, Ronald retrieved their mother from her house. When Mrs. Frye saw her son being forcibly arrested, she fought with the arresting officers, tearing one officer’s shirt. An officer then struck Marquette’s head with his nightstick, and all three of the Fryes were arrested.

By the time the Fryes were arrested, hundreds of onlookers had been drawn to the scene. Anger and rumors spread quickly through the black community, and residents stoned cars and beat white people who entered the area. A neighborhood meeting called by the Los Angeles County Human Relations Commission the following day failed to quell the mounting tension, and that evening rioting resumed. Firemen attempting to put out blazes were shot at by residents, and looting was rampant. All day Friday the riots intensified, prompting the California lieutenant governor to call in the National Guard. By Saturday night a curfew had been set, and nearly 14,000 National Guard troops were patrolling a 46-mile area. By the time King arrived on Tuesday, having cut short his stay in Puerto Rico, the riots were largely over and the curfew was lifted. Fueling residual anger, however, police stormed a Nation of Islam mosque the next night, firing hundreds of rounds of ammunition into the building and wounding 19 men.

I am in despair. The reforms of 50 years have changed….nothing. What should society try next?


Comment from Wolfus Aurelius
Time: April 29, 2015, 1:04 pm

Practical Looting 1010. 0 Credits. Prof. A. Sharpton.

In this course, students will learn how to survive on a day-to-day basis during urban looting, and more important, how to make a profit. Looting for personal consumption vs. resale will be discussed, as will sensible weaponry, transportation, avoidance of law enforcement, etc. Will include field trip to Ferguson, Baltimore, or other “hot” riot-torn area. Offered on an occasional basis. No textbook. A properly-loaded “nine” is required for the field trip. Students who survive will receive an “A.”

Comment from Uncle Badger
Time: April 29, 2015, 4:09 pm

Some Veg asks “What should society try next? ”

I don’t think I am allowed to say what I have in mind.

Comment from HowardDevore
Time: April 29, 2015, 4:39 pm

Well Anon, there may be no mention of the police as it is not the topic of discussion and ultimately is no excuse for the rioting and looting.

Or perhaps others, like me, may have their “give a damn” busted after St Tray-Tray and the Gentle Giant Michael Brown turned out to need a good plugging.
The boy who cried wolf and all that.

Or maybe the Baltimore rioters are not a civilized (!?!) as the Ferguson thugs or the LA rioters of a generation before. They at least waited till the courts had their say and then threw a temper tantrum. Baltimore didn’t even wait for that.

Comment from Some Vegetable
Time: April 29, 2015, 5:32 pm

Uncle Badger – your reaction was indeed was my first reaction…. However here’s my current scheme, er, Plan.

Mandatory Public Service- Here are the details as I envision them:

We know that Africa and other undeveloped parts of the world suffer from lack of infrastructure. The world’s children would benefit if America were to undertake to build dams, roads, and schools for them. We should do so, using mandatory public service to provide the labor. Anyone over age 21 is not in college or employed should be subject to such service. The length of service should be dependent on educational level attained. Thus, a 4 year degreed but unemployed person serves 1 year. A two year degree serves 2 years. The lower the educational level, the longer the mandatory service, with criminal histories before or during service increasing the length of service. Perhaps unmarried persons would serve an additional 6 months. Naturally, it would be cruel to separate parents from their children, so they could go with their parents with other draftees providing child care and educational services.

The results would be an improved world, thanks to the improved infrastructure, gainful employment for the unemployed, along with the general benefit to them of participation in a structured environment.

It might also be possible for illegal immigrants caught in the country to be put on a path to citizenship by successful participation in the program.

Of course, the program would be rather large and expensive, but probably not much more so than the current benefits which create no cultural benefits.

I believe that such a program would provide tangential benefits in reducing inner city over-crowding and the general crime rate. I mean, think of the children! Wouldn’t this program be good for future generations who are currently without hope? They could be part of a plan to improve the world!

Comment from Uncle Al
Time: April 29, 2015, 7:01 pm

@Some veg – “Mandatory public service” you say. So, your “solution” is to bring back slavery? How odd.

Comment from Anonymous
Time: April 29, 2015, 7:41 pm

Then dead pigs is the solution, HowardDevore. And that will be coming soon. I am cheering on the Crips and the Bloods, and hoping the Black Panthers will get with them in advance to build an appropriate command structure.

Comment from Subotai Bahadur
Time: April 29, 2015, 7:44 pm

Retired Peace Officer here.

1) I will be the first to admit that there is probable cause to believe that the cops screwed up badly and deliberately. Badly enough that a grand jury needs to be involved and the charges may include murder. I am not letting the cops off at all.

2) No, racism is not the cause. Baltimore has been ruled exclusively by Democrats for generations, and by Black Democrats for decades. I have heard several figures, but they seem to settle around 40% for the percentage of black officers on the force.

3) The death of Gray is NOT an excuse for the riots, nor do they justify any financial incentives for rebuilding.

4) The response of the city government and the Democrat political machine from the White House down is keyed towards exacerbating the situation.

5) As far as “what to do next”, may I refer all to an article over at PJM: http://tinyurl.com/k6kcn3q You may note that my comments are not overly optimistic.

6) This is not a one-off situation. It is a tactic. Expect a similar situation to be possible in pretty much every Blue Model city in the country this summer, and the Federal reaction may be . . . . historically noteworthy.

Comment from Some Vegetable
Time: April 29, 2015, 8:03 pm

Uncle Al – the idea is not mine, it’s an Obama Administration proposal from 2009. Credit where credit is due please.

Congress appears ready to pass an Obama administration plan that could create mandatory public service requirements for all American youth, fulfilling a campaign promise.

The bill, HR 1388: The Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act, otherwise known as the “GIVE Act,” has already passed the House by a vote of 321-105.

However, the bill ultimately failed in the Senate.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2009/03/92902/#UMPWQRYKpp0WvIGG.99http://www.wnd.com/2009/03/92902/

My only expansion is to include overseas service to let the rest of the world share in the benefits et al of our youth.

Comment from S. Weasel
Time: April 29, 2015, 9:02 pm

Oh, Anonymous. I wouldn’t wish for race war. I don’t think it would end the way you hope.

Black people are hovering at 13% of the population. That statistic alone should give you pause. They can and perhaps will burn the inner cities down, but what will that avail them? It will only drive business out, drive the values of their own neibhorhoods down and ensure that policing the inner city becomes an even less desirable job (attracting even less suitable candidates).

Outside the inner cities, America is white and armed to the teeth. Except where it’s Hispanic and pretty genocide-y about black people.

Comment from David Gillies
Time: April 29, 2015, 9:04 pm

I favour the Pottery Barn approach to apportioning blame: you broke it, you bought it. Maybe given another 50 years the realisation will dawn that if you keep electing Democrats and race-baiting scumbags like Al Sharpton then nothing will change. But I wouldn’t bank on it.

Comment from Uncle Al
Time: April 29, 2015, 9:04 pm

@Some Veg – If we’re talking about mandatory overseas public service, especially if the yoots are sent “for the duration”, then that’s maybe something I could get behind! (-:

Isn’t it remarkable how so many people are so twisted in the head that they think that individuals exist to serve the govt instead of the other, proper, way around. I don’t see any cure for that outside of doing away with govt in its entirety.

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Comment from .
Time: April 30, 2015, 3:50 am

Late to the party.
I wonder if Planet Anonymous has popo or is it all Mayberry land.
‘Murkan popo is the largest street gang. Once you comprende that, your survival chances approach .999 and I for one accept these odds.
Our noble Nubian prototypes have a different approach. Their fellow tribesmen plug them up for nuthin’, or some shiny chrome hubcap or half of spliff. But being plugged by a cop is the other Nubian lottery. Fame, riches, ooking, T-shirt trade… No wonder so many superfluous young bucks are looking forward to grabbing that deal. It will be the very apex of their brief and violent streak. Unlike national felon league or bakkaball pro sports, the chances smile upon young fatherless contenders.

I concur with Subotai Bahadur’s #6.

I do not see things the way Her Stoatliness does (or so I sense). One can sit on a quad of 50 cal on armored chassis and be subdued by a lone savage with sharpened rock. Yes, ‘Murka has +200M handheld devices. What it does not have is any ballf.

Will there be a race war? I sure hope not, but it is hard to see the efforts of grievance mongers as anything other than forward skirmishing to spark up the fire. (Cf. Bahadur #6).

Around 2050, Aztecs will revert to their usual antics atop large stony quadrangles in majority of ‘Murka. For all of their quirks, I am a fan of 2 features: pragmatic approach to the prototypes and utter imperviousness to the sad tale of the summer camp adventures in what is now southern Poland.

Comment from Stark Dickflüßig
Time: April 30, 2015, 4:18 am

Something something n-word gonna n-something something.

Comment from bastiches
Time: April 30, 2015, 6:53 am

[i]Comment from Oceania
Fascinating … just Fascinating …[/i]

Actually, Oceania, your unreconstructed fascism isn’t.

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