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They’ve only released about one-thousandth of the purloined documents, so I’ll have many opportunities to eat these words, but so far, the most surprising thing about the Wikileaks cable dump is — no surprises. Nothing released so far that I haven’t heard before, at least as a rumor.

And that’s stunning. Because I’m an extreme right wing nutcase who gets all her news from my fellow wingnuts on the internet. Shouldn’t a huge dose of raw diplomatic data have dashed at least a few of my cherished assumptions by now?

The wildest revelations — things like Iran buying long-range missiles off of North Korea, Arab leaders hotter to stop Iran’s nuke program than Israel is, the Red Crescent moving weapons with ambulances — have been chatter around the dextrosphere for ages.

Would Wikileaks lead with its most boring material? Would the lefty journalists helping them sort through it cherrypick facts that support the winger worldview? I guess we’ll find out.

Anyhow, the most shocking thing — by far — that I’ve learned is that three million people had access to these diplomatic cables, including some very junior staffers. Our utter boneheaded incompetence will be the most serious revelation to the world.

p.s. Despite the picture — I’m lazy. I recycle illustrations. Sue me — I wonder how upset Obama is about this, really. None of his own words have leaked. The whole thing reflects more on Hillary. He won’t like the building loseriness of his presidency, but I don’t see him as the kind of guy who takes other people’s mistakes upon himself.

p.p.s. Do we know how far back the cables go? He could get some bonus Blame Bush out of it. He can’t get enough of that shit.


Comment from Mark Matis
Time: November 29, 2010, 11:16 pm

Assange probably coordinated this whole pile with The One and his toadies. The Muslim in Chief has no concern about his image. The grovelling media will rehabilitate that post-haste. And as you said, this does diss Hillary. Which is clearly in the best interest of the Head Nagger What’s In Charge.

Comment from Ric Locke
Time: November 29, 2010, 11:40 pm

The main thing we get from this bunch of WikiLeaks is confirmation of the pre-existing belief that the State Department is inhabited entirely by futile, petty, nadless twits.


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: November 29, 2010, 11:58 pm

Heh. It’s just occurred to me. The fact that three million people have access to those cables is probably WHY there’s nothing shocking in them.

Leaks aren’t always giant document dumps, after all. People love to be in the know and share a bit of inside information. Even good people with their country’s best interests at heart.

Comment from Dan.
Time: November 30, 2010, 12:28 am

Speaking of the president’s twelve-stitch-lip — has anyone checked Michele’s knuckles?

Comment from S. Weasel
Time: November 30, 2010, 12:40 am

Hm. Of course, now that many governments have reason to be angry at Assange, it’s safer to assassinate him.

Comment from S. Weasel
Time: November 30, 2010, 1:07 am

JESUS! BBC news has just said this database of cables goes back to *1966*.

Fucking hellski.

And they’re starting with this weak shit from 2010?

Comment from Steamboat McGoo
Time: November 30, 2010, 1:22 am

Anyone mention here that Leslie Nielsen passed away the other day? Damn. He was hilarious.

Comment from j2
Time: November 30, 2010, 3:28 am

Stoaty… the picture is still Hillary ously 2012. Are you working for her???? (eyebrow lifted…)


Next Question:
where’s the joke in “ASS ANGE”..?

(btw: truly laughing at your ability to capture the true retard in BHO… nice job (can you say “chowda head”)

Comment from David Gillies
Time: November 30, 2010, 7:22 am

I caught a quick bit of Fareed Zakaria on King’s show on CNN while channel-surfing saying that nine hundred thousand people in the US have Top Secret clearance. There’s obviously tension between the free flow of information between government entities and compartmentalisation in the name of security (maybe if there’d been a little less of that we’d have picked up the 9/11 hijackers earlier) but I think it’s arguable the pendulum has swung too far in the opposite direction. Apparently the State Department has gone all huffy and de-friended DoD.

Comment from Scott Jacobs
Time: November 30, 2010, 8:22 am

I’m personally waiting for the hillarity that would ensue when one of the cables says “Yeah, Iraq had WMDs, but we took too long getting there, so he had time to hand them off to Syria…”

Comment from Skandia
Time: November 30, 2010, 12:21 pm

This being spun as damaging to Hillary makes me suspicious, and why would an army PFC have access to State Department cable traffic?

Comment from S. Weasel
Time: November 30, 2010, 12:47 pm

It doesn’t look like traffic, it looks like archives. Especially if it goes back to 1966.

Calling them “cables” is a bit odd. I wonder how long it’s been since they were actually cablegrams. I guess that’s just the nomenclature.

Why embassy cable traffic in particular? It’s all very strange.

Comment from Ric Locke
Time: November 30, 2010, 2:52 pm

Stoaty, one of the things that was discovered after 9/11 was that Federal agencies didn’t talk to one another. In some cases (the “Gorelick Wall”) that was deliberate policy, in others it was bureaucratic turf-protection. As a result, stuff got missed that might have made a difference. The Word went out from On High: Thou Shalt Communicate, Dammit! Of course no two such agencies had the same database structure or security standards, and in many cases there were several such structures within a given agency. True to bureaucratic form, they said the Hell with it and opened the channels.

Note that this is exactly the sort of stuff you’d hand to the lowest-grade analyst around — boring, repetitive, and near-nil information density. In an intelligence agency, that’s what enlisted or their civilian equivalent are for. You do not want to waste your higher-grade people trolling through muck like this for the one nugget in ten tons of useless sand. The scandal isn’t that Manning had access to it. The scandal is that they didn’t have anything in place to detect and frustrate mass downloads. For one thing, why did he have a CD writer on his computer in the first place?


Comment from MikeW
Time: November 30, 2010, 3:35 pm

I agree, it’s unlikely that there will be found a proverbial smoking gun of malfeasance in the message traffic. What will arise though, and will take a little longer to suss out, is a general tone of cluelessness and incompetence of people operating in some closed environments, such as the White House.

BHO & Krewe seem to mistake the public comments of foreign leaders for their actual feelings about things. To wit:

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Comment from S. Weasel
Time: November 30, 2010, 4:55 pm

Slate has a piece on “cables.” Basically, a message to one specific person is an email. A cable is more of a broadcast, intended to be seen by more than one person.

Bay of Pigs was the last time Western Union handled embassy messaging.

Comment from Mark Matis
Time: November 30, 2010, 5:27 pm

For Ric Locke:

He’s a Preferred Species. How do you think they’d be able to deny him that?

Comment from Rich Rostrom
Time: November 30, 2010, 5:54 pm

Ric Locke: “…confirmation of the pre-existing belief that the State Department is inhabited entirely by futile, petty, nadless twits.”

SF writer Keith Laumer had served in the Diplomatic Corps. Later he had a very long series of short stories and novels about Retief, a “galactic diplomat” in the Corps Diplomatique Terrestrienne. Retief was an ultra-cool superstudly dude surrounded by careerist hacks with names like Straphanger, Hidebinder, Earlyworm, Treadwater, and Pinchbottle.

I once heard Laumer say “Any resemblance between the Corps Diplomatique Terrestrienne and the U.S. State Department is completely intentional and a damn shame!”

Comment from porknbean
Time: November 30, 2010, 7:24 pm

Our local radio guy says this makes Hillary look good. Why look how she is mining info on UN peoples. Isn’t that what we are supposed to be doing, spying and collecing data on the furriners?

Er…with Hillary? Remember the FBI files she gathered/put together on her fellow citizen ‘enemies’? Remember the private citizens getting audited for speaking ill about her princess self? Now, of course you should gather info on those on the ‘outside’ but would she use it for the good of our national security or the good of her bank acct/campaign stash?

*thinks about her friends and donors, the Chicoms, the Saudis, etc*

Comment from Scubafreak
Time: November 30, 2010, 7:32 pm

I dunno. Whenever I see this crap, I see a picture in my head straight out of “Road Warrior” with the big guy in the hocky mask and his little girly boy, but the girly-boy is assange, and hockey mask is George Soros…….

I think I need intense psychotherapy……. ;-(

Comment from Scott Jacobs
Time: November 30, 2010, 10:50 pm

The more I hear about this, and the DEMANDS the Hillary resign, the more sure I am that the reason people are leading with the more recent stuff is to kill a Hillary in 2012 push.

Comment from gebrauchshund
Time: December 1, 2010, 7:11 am

Scubafreak – I don’t know if you need therapy, but you do need to watch “The Road Warrior” again.

The guy in the hockey mask is the Lord Humongous, ruler of the wastelands, the Ayatolla of Rock and Rolla.

The guy with the girly boy is the Wez, the number one underling and attack dog for the Humongous.

The fact that I know this information probably indicates that I’m the one needing therapy, or more alcohol.

Comment from Oldcat
Time: December 1, 2010, 6:29 pm

Rich: You forgot Ambassador Grossblunder in the Retief stories. And the lovely secretary Miss Braswell.

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