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There is a strong link between socialism and Christianity in the UK – indeed, arguably the original socialists came to prominence during the English Civil War and, later, their spiritual descendants were very active in the birth of the Labour party.

It’s always struck me as deliciously ironic to hear a Leftie spouting guilt-ridden, self-denying stuff, pausing for breath, and then setting about the evils of the church, from whence so many of their ideas are derived.

Socialism, Marxism in particular, is a Christian heresy. Its adherents are the people who take the wrong lesson(s) from the Parables. For instance, the stuff about rich people is don’t-let-this-happen-to-you warnings; Socialists aren’t the only ones who take them as permission, or directives, to “rob the rich to help the poor” — which is exactly backwards to the teachings of Christ.

Heretics and schismatics are always, at minimum, disdainful of the Original Version. Vice versa as well, of course. It’s sort of a requirement.

Regards,
Ric

I think it goes in reverse. I think the natural tendency of man is to seek religion, that people know something is basically wrong with the world and people, and fear a judgment and apocalypse.

Global warming fears just fulfill those natural tendencies.

I don’t know if it is a Christian only thing. Norse mythologists feared the Fimbulwinter and the end of everything, even the Gods.

There’s always someone wanting to rain on everyone’s parade by being more concerned about the end of everything than normal folks. Global Warming, Nuke War, Apocalyptic visions, Armageddon, and so on.

The Fabians in the UK? Terrible creatures.
Although in Sweasels world, she assumes lefties are Aethists and Right wingers are christians.
Only in America is that probably true. Mind, there are sooo many Religious nuts cases in the US …. it is unreal.
If I had my way, all Religious people would be permanently chipped and require selective breeding to be implemented to control the promotion of these particular genetic traits.
After all, who is your God now?

I’m going to have to go out and find some LSD if I’m going to attempt to read these threads and associated comments… Do people even make the stuff any more?

What, LSD? I think so. I think I saw somebody in the Occupy movement talking about it.

Hmmm there are simplistic ways to synthesise it – but your should do it properly.
There is always Mexican Tripping Grass for those that feel the need to do drugs.

I was watching a very old episode of Time Team last night. They said they could not excavate in an area because they found a badger hole and the very strict badger act.

So, I google it. Are you telling me you can’t garden or farm your own property if a badger squats on it? (Sorry, Uncle B.)

That’s about the size of it, Redd. Though the damn things are forever getting run over by cars. Oddly enough, with giant shovel injuries to the back of the head.

“Give the people a light and they’ll follow it anywhere”.

Firesign Theater

I have to agree that the current “ Global Warming Climate Change is happening because of your greedy and sinful behavior” comes from the Christian guilt-based culture gone adrift.

That is not to say that Christianity is bad: quite the opposite. However the last century was very hard on our belief systems. I don’t think that I need to catalog the horrors that challenged our religons beyond saying that tens of millions died and our God(s) could or did not prevent that. That good triumphed in the end has not fully entered our conciousness yet and so many are casting about for replacement gods.

The new priests of the moment are the scientists. They have shown the power of their God “PHYSICS” in very Old Testament ways: healing the sick, feeding the hungry, and smiting our enemies in spectular displays of power (see Hiroshima, et al).

However it is gradually becoming clear that PHYSICS does not answer all our need and that many still die of hunger and by tsunamis and earthquakes. The priests are therefore falling back on the ancient claim that the God could fix everything but chooses not to because of our sinful behaviors – eating and drinking too much; living lustfully and comfortably while others are poor. Therefore we must atone through sacrificing our comforts or the God PHYSICS will punish us through terrible storms, ruined crops and by ruining the future of our children.

Thus, through these threats our priests retain their status and power over them. Continue tithing to them through grants or fear the consequences!

Redd, Stoaty — sounds like the UK reaction to “protected species” is roughly parallel to the one across the pond.

Here, the motto is “Shoot, Shovel, Shut up”. I suppose if you haven’t the means for the first, blunt instruments will do as well.

Regards,
Ric

“I think about these things. It’s why I walk into telephone poles.”

Any chance you have the cause and effect reveresed?

It’s not just the Fabian Christian Socialists that formed the ethos of the radical Left. There’s a strong thread of social radicalism running through Judaism as well. An absolutely brilliant book, and one I can’t recommend highly enough, is Radical Son by David Horowitz. He goes into great detail how the Talmudic notion of tikkun olam (making the world whole) was hijacked by many of the early C20th Jewish radicals and enthusiastically espoused by their red-diaper babies that followed after. Google Rabbi Michael Lerner or even better read the Horowitz book (and what almost counts as a companion volume, The Politics of Bad Faith, which details Horowitz’s fight back against the repugnant and illogical “reparations” movement.)

Wow, serious politics on sweasel.com. Where my dancing stuffed kittens at?

I’m just wondering if the Chinese or the Indians will find it easier to walk away from the theory when the evidence doesn’t pan out.

They haven’t seen any evidence favoring the theory at all — which is why they told the UN to go pound sand at Hopenchangen 2010. The only reason they’re paying lip service to it is that there’s a very good buck to be made producing “green” products for the Long Noses.

That’s also helping them with their population problem — I think the semi-official title of the program is called “Heavy-metal Poisoning: A Post-Natal Abortion Solution”…

Badger Act.

Time was, I could watch Badger Acts in the San Francisco theater right after an act of a lady with a Shetlin Pony.

Five dollars they wanted, for the whole show, they did.

Tikkun Olam is nothing new. And there are many ways to make the world whole. Collectivization of agriculture, nationalization of industry was a swell idea of the Chosen Ones in the early C20th Russia.

Hey Gillies, I will see your Tikkun Olam and raise you one Kol Nidre:

“All personal vows we are likely to make, all personal oaths and pledges we are likely to take between this Yom Kippur and the next Yom Kippur, we publicly renounce. Let them all be relinquished and abandoned, null and void, neither firm nor established. Let our personal vows, pledges and oaths be considered neither vows nor pledges nor oaths.”