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They can’t figure out how to get a trigger lock on it

Meet my neighbor, Beachy Head. It’s Britain’s #1 suicide spot. In fact, it’s the third most popular suicide spot in the world, after the Golden Gate Bridge and Aokigahara Woods.

It’s got a body count of about twenty a year, which doesn’t seem all that lethal, so I guess it just seems like somebody is jumping off the thing every ten minutes. Some lady jumped off it last night. This Summer, an old dude even drove off it in a Lark.

I don’t know what it takes to fling yourself off the end of that sucker, but I’m pretty sure I haven’t got any of it. It doesn’t matter right now, but I always like to have an exit strategy. Nome sane?

That’s one of the reasons I really, really hated leaving my guns behind when I moved: lost my exit strategy.

We’ve been talking about guns this week and I just want to say, it sticks in my craw that suicides are lumped in with other gun deaths when we talk about gun control. Seems to me, a successful suicide by firearm means that gun performed exactly the way its owner wished. I have a hard time classifying a correctly functioning tool — ethically applied, whatever the church and the law might say — as a problem.

And on that cheery note, have a good weekend!

Comments


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: January 18, 2013, 10:55 pm

They also hang themselves a lot here. brrrrr.


Comment from Redd
Time: January 18, 2013, 11:02 pm

I’d be afraid I’d change my mine going down. I hate that people commit suicides in national parks. They may think it’s cool to exit in a beautiful spot. For those who have to find and clean up the mess — not so much.

Nembutal & alcohol is the way to do it if you must. I have to say I was shocked and sadden reading about those twins who were only 45 being euthanized. That’s fucked!


Comment from ryukyu
Time: January 18, 2013, 11:49 pm

That cliff needs a pistol grip. Hey, maybe we need a pistol grip on the fiscal cliff?


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: January 19, 2013, 12:11 am

I know someone who made a couple of trips South of the Border and laid in a supply of barbiturates. You can still get them in Mexico. You have to get the barby/alcohol mix just right, but otherwise…pretty easy way to go.


Comment from Scubafreak
Time: January 19, 2013, 12:23 am

But..But..But..CHILDURN..and..KURT COBAIN..and..COPKILLERS..and..and…….

\Rasberry ;-)


Comment from Steamboat McGoo
Time: January 19, 2013, 1:52 am

A small tank of nitrogen gas and a head-size plastic baggie will do the job cleanly, peacefully, and painlessly. Read “Final Exit” for the proper method. Everyone should own a copy….just in case.


Comment from GregO
Time: January 19, 2013, 2:55 am

Hey y’all – don’t worry be happy!


Comment from Stark Dickflüssig
Time: January 19, 2013, 3:21 am

As Yoda said, “Do or do not, there is no try.”


Comment from Nina
Time: January 19, 2013, 4:16 am

When wandering the waterfront in Hull in July we saw a bunch of flowers tied to the various points that stuck out over the Humber–flowers, cards, notes, all from people lamenting the premature loss of a loved one. I figured they were fisherfolk who didn’t make it back, but was told that the area was popular with jumpers as well.


Comment from SCOTTtheBADGER
Time: January 19, 2013, 10:07 am

It’s the ones that you find several days later, when you do a welfare check on them, after no one has heard from them for a week, that make my day.

To a cop, those “I’ve fallen, and I can’t get up” ads are nothing to laugh at. Usually we find them in time.


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: January 19, 2013, 12:57 pm

Eh. You have my sympathies, Scott. That’s extremely not nice.

Doesn’t happen at Beachy Head, though. Jumpers are so common, there’s more or less a dedicated life boat crew for fishing them out. Someone almost always sees them go over and phones for a pickup.


Comment from Gibby Haynes
Time: January 19, 2013, 8:34 pm

When wandering the waterfront in Hull in July we saw a bunch of flowers tied to the various points that stuck out over the Humber–flowers, cards, notes, all from people lamenting the premature loss of a loved one. I figured they were fisherfolk who didn’t make it back, but was told that the area was popular with jumpers as well.

When wandering around Great Union Street in Hull the other day whilst waiting for my bike to get its MOT, I saw a pair of knickers by the river. Hopefully it was just one of the products (the others being unpronounceable diseases and regret) of a quick shag, and nothing more sinister.

tl;dr Hull is a shithole and needs to be nuked from orbit.


Comment from Some Vegetable
Time: January 19, 2013, 9:13 pm

Can’t do links easily on my Nook so to check these numbers, you’ll need to google “U.S. murder statistics rifle handgun shotgun”.It should lead you to the FBI Crime in the United States 2011.

You’ll find that there were 12,664 murders in the US i n 2011 of which 6,220 were commited by handgun and 323 by rifle. Shotguns were responsible for 356, “other guns “(?) for 97 and unspecified guns for 1587. Note that we can probably assume that the unknown/ not stated weapons fall into same distribution ratio as the known gun types.

“Personal weapons (hands feet etc)” accounted for 728 murders. Even assuming that all rifle murders were done with “assault rifles” doesn’t logic suggest we should be going after “assault boots” as our priority?


Comment from Subotai Bahadur
Time: January 19, 2013, 9:50 pm

Comment from Some Vegetable
Time: January 19, 2013, 9:13 pm

Agreed, and may I add something else. About 50% of the handgun deaths are in “Blue” urban areas, gang related, and Black-on-Black or Hispanic-on-Hispanic, with a lot of innocent bystanders literally caught in the crossfire. Business disputes for illicit pharmaceuticals are frequently involved. Maybe removing gangbangers rather than legal firearms from the streets might have a better positive effect.

Another detail. In about half of our states, any law abiding citizen of legal age can strap on a firearm [some require permits] and walk about their business. In the other half, only cops, criminals, politicians, and those who pay them off can legally do so. Legality, of course, does not affect the rate of firearms carry amongst criminals in either half. About 80% of the firearms killings in the country happen in the second half.

Given that I understand that the rate of firearms crimes in Britain has doubled since Brits were disarmed …. maybe there is a similar mechanism at work.

Subotai Bahadur


Comment from Nina
Time: January 20, 2013, 1:11 am

Gibby, totally agree with you about Hull, I was very relieved when the kids moved up to North Yorkshire instead.


Comment from JuliaM
Time: January 20, 2013, 6:15 am

“They also hang themselves a lot here. brrrrr.”

Also leap in front of trains. Usually in rush hour…


Comment from Oceania
Time: January 20, 2013, 9:36 am

Something for Sweasel:

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=379483


Comment from cobrakai99
Time: January 20, 2013, 3:06 pm

I was stuck at King’s Cross for several hours because someone leapt in front of the train. What surprised me is the rail authorities actually stated this as the reason for the delay.


Comment from beasn
Time: January 20, 2013, 7:20 pm

I thought euros lurved them some euthanizing…or it’s only okay if the state does it.


Comment from Catseye
Time: January 20, 2013, 9:26 pm

The places where people go to commit suicide don’t bother me as much as the places where people accidentally kill themselves. There is a place in Giant City State Park in Illinois where at least one person would accidentally die every year attempting to leap from one side of a cliff to the other. They measured it and it’s a longer jump than the Olympic long jump record.


Comment from Uncle Badger
Time: January 20, 2013, 9:41 pm

That’s just natural selection at work, Catseye ;)


Comment from Redd
Time: January 20, 2013, 10:21 pm

Wow, stoaty didn’t get centimeters of snow, she got an inch, maybe, two!!!1!!!! Now they are closing schools.

Oh, well at least you’re not in Moscow. :)


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: January 20, 2013, 10:55 pm

Oh, no…I wouldn’t be at all surprised if we got *THREE* inches of snow today! The chickens have refused to come out of the henhouse for four days. And I don’t mean they’ve refused to come out of the run…they won’t even go IN to the run.

Actually, it’s supposed to drop to 25 tonight. It’ll probably be quite nasty first thing, what with the melty Sunday snow firming up on us. Fortunately, we don’t have to be anywhere.


Comment from Redd
Time: January 20, 2013, 10:58 pm

25 is awfully cold. What keeps them from becoming chick-i-ciles?


Comment from Redd
Time: January 20, 2013, 11:11 pm

I’m watching first time farmers. George went out partying and didn’t return until late. His ewe lost both her lambs, developed septicemia, and died. Bad, farmer! Bad, bad, farmer!!!


Comment from Oceania
Time: January 21, 2013, 3:00 am

And now for something completely different

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HVsgAWdQX8


Comment from Bob Mulroy
Time: January 21, 2013, 8:30 pm

I understand heroin is cheaper than beer in the UK. 500 milligrams will kill most novice users. Shuts ‘em right off.


Comment from Elphaba
Time: January 22, 2013, 5:11 pm

Is it just me, or do those look like the Cliffs of Insanity from Princess Bride?


Comment from Sigivald
Time: January 22, 2013, 7:21 pm

We’ve been talking about guns this week and I just want to say, it sticks in my craw that suicides are lumped in with other gun deaths when we talk about gun control. Seems to me, a successful suicide by firearm means that gun performed exactly the way its owner wished. I have a hard time classifying a correctly functioning tool — ethically applied, whatever the church and the law might say — as a problem.

Well, yeah. They want to make guns seem Bad, no matter what.

“Gun deaths” also include self-defense and, in some cases, justified police shootings.

They’re “violence”, yep – but precisely the “violence” we don’t think is bad.

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