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I was going to play with Loughner’s mug shot, but I couldn’t deal. Never mind the smirk, that boy’s head is full of battery acid and rusty razor-blades and there’s nothing but a long lifetime of prison and scary meds ahead of him. Let him be.

Dupnik, on the other hand, has some ‘splainin’ to do. If Loughner had come to the attention of law enforcement many times — including the morning of the shooting — did they miss any opportunities to get him evaluated? Maybe not. I accept that — maybe not. But my mother used to say you could smell schizophrenia — by which she meant something about the behavior of a psychotic rings every THERE’S SOMETHING WRONG HERE alarm bell you’ve got. Apparently, anybody in Arizona can get anybody else carted off for a psych eval.

And Dupnik sure is yelping like a scalded hound.


Comment from lauraw
Time: January 12, 2011, 8:55 pm

And he’s refusing to release any of his records on the kid.

Comment from BigBlueBug
Time: January 12, 2011, 9:05 pm

His parents, friends, school officials at his Community college, the freakin’ police all decided for whatever reason that this obviously crazy person should be ignored.

Apart from all the homicidal actions, just imagine that this guy wasn’t gonna kill anyone or do any harm to others.

Being that crazy hurts and there’s at least a chance that some proper meds and treatment would have relieved some of his misery. Maybe it wouldn’t have made a difference for the people he killed or for himself but Jesus, not one bit of effort?

Nobody gave a shit either for what he might do to others
or that he was seriously ill or the giant neon sign over his head that said “warning, I am batshit insane and dangerous”.

It’s bad enough to hear, “he was quite, polite and kept to himself” from the interviewed neighbor. Instead it’s, oh sure, he was crazy as a bag of rats, no surprise that he postal there, nosiree.


Comment from Deborah
Time: January 12, 2011, 9:56 pm

I predict that Sheriff Dupnik will resign soon (not soon enough though, unless it’s this afternoon).

Comment from Mark Matis
Time: January 12, 2011, 10:15 pm

Look, BigBlueBug, neither his friends nor the school officials decided he should be ignored. BOTH GROUPS duly reported him to the Legal Authorities. And the Legal Authorities chose to do nothing. At that point the school officials did all THEY could and expelled him.

The stench is overwhelming. And it smells like Pima County pig. The only REAL question is how deep does the corruption run? Is it merely the Sheriff and his staff? Or does it run ALL THE WAY DOWN THROUGH the department like it does at the Metropolitan Las Vegas Police Department who murdered Eric Scott in cold blood and then covered it up?

Comment from Mark Matis
Time: January 12, 2011, 10:19 pm

And surely you don’t expect the illustrious Sheriff to resign. I mean, he has the FULL support of much of that community. Just like Chuckie Schumer and Charlie Rangel and… Well, hopefully you get the picture.

Comment from BigBlueBug
Time: January 12, 2011, 10:56 pm

Ah, I see, my mistake. Thanks Mark.

Just pissed beyond belief at this.

Imagine that this guy wasn’t a killer, just a crazy freak. A miserable crazy person who could have been helped by an intervention.

Trust me, crazy sucks. And it’s an illness, we can’t help it. But we can be helped. Sure, all the meds and therapy in the world may not have changed anything. Maybe they would have. The parents could have had him committed for evaluation and I don’t think the doctors would have missed teh crazy. The sheriff is a giant asshole and pusswad/

Remember when it was decided by the moral superiority crowd that it would be kinder to put crazy people on the street to live in homeless misery, than it would be to institutionalize them. They maybe could have focused on making the institutions better.

I admit that I am biased. I live a mostly normal (heh) life because of medication. I feel for crazy people, even this murderous fuck. Sigh.

Next up, a douchebag judge decides that after 5 years of medication and therapy, this guy can be released.


P.S. I’ve already told the wife; if you ever see me making a shrine with skulls and dried oranges, put me away for good.

Comment from Skandia
Time: January 12, 2011, 11:07 pm

That law is one of the most liberal in the nation in allowing anyone who is concerned about another’s mental stability to request a mental evaluation

That just scares the crap outa me. Your neighbor accuses you of being a witch and into the dunking chair you go, until you confess.

And once you have been evaluated, that stays on your record, in your history for the rest of your life, all because you didn’t meet your neighbor’s expectation of ‘normal’.

Comment from S. Weasel
Time: January 12, 2011, 11:23 pm

I just got a spam from Penis Joe Peniser. In French, no less.

Comment from Gromulin
Time: January 12, 2011, 11:32 pm

I’m with Skandia…that’s scary if true. Imagine how divorce and custody battles play out in that environment.

Comment from S. Weasel
Time: January 12, 2011, 11:37 pm

Yeah, I thought that. Pretty easy way to get some vengeance on the cheap.

Comment from Mark Matis
Time: January 12, 2011, 11:37 pm

Well hey, if it’s done by the County mental examiner and you work for the County, it apparently would not be a problem in Sheriff Dupnik’s jurisdiction.

Comment from Scubafreak
Time: January 12, 2011, 11:47 pm

Slightly off topic, but did you all see the presser by Julian Assange, demanding that Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh and others be prosecuted for murder for inciting violence?

AND he manages to slip in that he has an “Insurance File” on Rupert Murdoch that he will release if Sky News and FOX don’t stop reporting about him? Hilarious. The self described crusader for free speech trying to lynch some and blackmail others to make them SHUT UP!


Comment from Scubafreak
Time: January 13, 2011, 12:06 am

Oh, and don’t miss Michelle Malkin’s primmer on Lefty hate speach in the last few years…


Comment from Allen
Time: January 13, 2011, 12:48 am

The guy will get creamed in the next election. Most folks I know don’t give a wit about a Sheriff’s politics, they do care about job performance. The most he should have said is “… ongoing investigation.”

He will however, have a new title, “Sheriff Dipstick.”

Comment from Mitchell
Time: January 13, 2011, 1:05 am

They’re giving out t-shirts at the memorial. “Together We Thrive Tuscon & America” is the official brand name of this thing now. Incredible.

Comment from S. Weasel
Time: January 13, 2011, 1:15 am

T-SHIRTS. Holy fuck.

I just turned off Tweetdeck. I can’t do this blow-by-blow.

Comment from lauraw
Time: January 13, 2011, 1:27 am

Hubby knew a guy who was caught and released by the police many times for driving erratically and while drunk.
He was from a family pretty well-liked by the local cops.

He ended up killing people.

The human tendency to ‘let it slide’ in order to not offend your friends, with your moral shield being merely your own hope and belief that everything will turn out okay, is a strong one.

It looks for all the world that this Dupnik lost on that gamble, and he stinks of a coverup so strongly I really wonder if receiving a phone call from the messiah will be able to save him.

Comment from Monotone The Elderish
Time: January 13, 2011, 1:36 am

Oh hell, as if it wasn’t bad enough…. now t-shirts? well it won’t work, i’m still voting their ass’s out. ( found a pic of said overwear http://tinyurl.com/6l7655e)

Comment from mojo
Time: January 13, 2011, 1:44 am

CYA is an instinct with the bureaucrat class. Dumbshit will edit the files.

Comment from Sven in Colorado
Time: January 13, 2011, 1:45 am

First off…Its Arizona… Much like Texas, where county sheriffs wield power over large amounts of rural and unincorporated townships, villages and all the attendant real estate.

Pima county, where Dupnickshits is sheriff, is home to a growing population of left-wing Baby-Boomer retirees. Tucson is the county seat, home to the Berkeley’esque University of Arizona. It has, outside of Texas, the longest, undefended stretch of border with Mexico.

Maricopa County to the north and east, has Sheriff Joe Arpaio still in command of county law enforcement. He is the antithesis of Dupnik. In a brief FOX News interview, (mostly heard and not seen), Arpaio’s thinly veiled disgust and dislike of his fellow sheriff was clear. Don’t recall and am too damn tired to google the interview.

However, the talk came down to “threats against public officials.” Arpaio stated clearly and with great conviction that he is threatened every day and has no compunction about tracking down the repeat or red flagged threats and prosecuting them. He also stated that he thought his fellow sheriff had dropped the ball in handling the obvious threat that Loughner posed, especially to congresswoman Giffords.

Lived in Arizona, Bisbee, seat of Cochise County. My folks lived there until they died, Mum just last year. I still have family and friends down there. Like Colorado, it is being overrun with vapid and rabid libtards.

Anyone care to join me in reloading some 12 ga. personal defense rounds?

Comment from Scubafreak
Time: January 13, 2011, 2:04 am

Sven – I’ll take 50 flechette rounds, if you please….

Comment from Gromulin
Time: January 13, 2011, 2:12 am

Holy crap. He’s fucking smiling. At a memorial service. Looks so goddamn proud of himself. Doing the only thing he knows how to do..speechify. Disgusting in the extreme. The man is a completely tone-deaf narcissist.

Comment from Gromulin
Time: January 13, 2011, 2:23 am

Only way he could make it worse is if he did those weird Mussolini stare-into-space pauses.

Oh, wait. That’s exactly what he did.

Comment from Monotone The Elderish
Time: January 13, 2011, 2:46 am

Well, He’s definetly going for the mussolini style witchhunt laws… reminds of the old saying “If it quacks like a duck…”

Comment from Mark Matis
Time: January 13, 2011, 4:04 am

Any bets that all records of the publics’ communications re: Loughner with the Pima County Sheriff’s Department have been “accidentally” misplaced or are otherwise unavailable? That seems to be the preferred approach by “Law Enforcement” in the US…

Comment from Scubafreak
Time: January 13, 2011, 5:05 am

I’d say that that is just about a given, Mark….

Comment from Mike C.
Time: January 13, 2011, 8:04 am

Um, actually those records have been released. Not without some FOI filings, mind you, but they have been released.

Comment from BrendaK
Time: January 13, 2011, 2:34 pm

Those records have been released – but, with
some strange omissions. Like those death threats
Sheriff Dipstick mentioned. Or anything at all
from 2008-2010.

The smart money bets, “scrubbed.”

Comment from S. Weasel
Time: January 13, 2011, 2:59 pm

This guy is selling penis enlargement pills:

I am a poor man from the African region, I need money to survive by comment on your blogs / forums or guestbook to make my website appear in search engine. Here are the list of my websites

Points for originality.

Comment from steve
Time: January 13, 2011, 3:02 pm

At Monotone,tE:

“If it quacks like a duck…”….

Then you build a bridge out of it!

Comment from David Gillies
Time: January 13, 2011, 3:46 pm

But…but: Gabrielle Giffords opened her eyes shortly after the Obama visited her. Then, just like Lazarus, she rose from her bed and danced a fandango. Truly, the Obama is mighty. We are not fit to touch the hem of his raiment.

Comment from Bob Mulroy
Time: January 13, 2011, 4:34 pm

I have a son who developed schizoform behaviors after a head injury. One year he was an engaged A/B student who couldn’t wait to join the Airforce, the next he was just withdrawn and “odd.”

I spent about four years hoping he’d wake up tomorrow and be “normal” before I finally dragged him to a Psychiatrist.

He’s doing better now.

Comment from Monotone The Elderish
Time: January 13, 2011, 5:17 pm

@steve, ahh, you remind me of the great Duck Bridges of Guatemala! they don’t like me there anymore….

Comment from Mark Matis
Time: January 13, 2011, 5:18 pm

Whilst Ms. Gifford is being praised as a “conservative”, her record shows that to be merely the standard construct of the Left and RINOs:


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: January 13, 2011, 5:20 pm

I feel for you, Bob.

Atheist that I am, when I say “soul” I mean “brain.” When injury or disease messes with the brain, it’s an awful thing to witness. How much worse to experience.

We have so few tools for treating mental illnesses. The anti-psychotic medications we have mostly make people feel like shit, so they aren’t inclined to stick with them unless closely supervised.

I blame Freud for throwing medicine off the right track for a century. We have so much catching up to do.

Comment from Ric Locke
Time: January 13, 2011, 7:35 pm

Yeah, Stoaty, like the contemporary alternatives were just wonderful — Pavlov and Jung and Kraft-Ebbing, O my.

I wish people had a better feel for necessary precursors. When steel, steam, and space come together you can have railroads, and not before.


Comment from C Sherman
Time: January 17, 2011, 3:16 am

Coming a little late to the party, but I actually live here in Tucson so here’s my $.02:

First, the shooter is simply nuts. There’s plenty of evidence of that, and he’ll be spending a long time in the prison loony bin. There clearly was no politics involved, just bats in the belfry.

Dupnik started out as Sheriff of a large rural county. That county is still as large, but significant parts are anything but rural anymore. Under Dupnik’s leadership, the Pima County Sheriff’s Office as an organization has adapted very poorly to the changes. Their policies and structure are much better suited to rural policing, but the still have to deal with a broad range of very urban challenges. This is Dupnik’s legacy, and his response to this incident clearly shows the political triangulation that has gotten him re-elected multiple times, despite his leadership failures. I’d like to hope that he will retire or be defeated in the next election, but he’s survived too many times to write him off so easily. Perhaps his recent public ass-flashing will hasten his departure, but it might not.

One topic that gets little discussion is the security at this event. It does not appear that Giffords’ staff even considered security in their planning. This isn’t too surprising as Giffords’ staff is drawn from the Liberal gene pool, most of whom believe that bad things don’t happen to ‘good’ people like them. What is more distressing is the the PCSO didn’t even know about the event, and thus had no plan for security either. There are so many fails in this fact…why didn’t they know?…do they not reach out to politicians offices for information like this?…when they found out about the event, did they immediately station deputies nearby or dispatch a team to the event?. The answers are probably ‘no’, raising the further question of “Why or why not”? A deputy or two stationed at the event might not have prevented Giffords from being shot, but it might have shortened the list of the dead and wounded. Of course in a liberally inclined crowd, it is silly to hope that someone was carrying a concealed pistol, even in ‘cowboy country’…

I listened to part of the “memorial service” on the radio while it was on. With the cheering and applause, that was no memorial service. It was the first event of the “Re-Elect Meeeee in 2010” campaign. That the entire event was organized by the embattled liberal University of Arizona President (Shelton) as an obvious effort at building political patronage to try to keep his job, is immaterial. And, the Campaigner-in-Chief hit a home run with his speech, as one would expect. But that was no ‘memorial service’, and Obama didn’t come here out of any great concern for Giffords.

From the moment this tragic chain of events hit the news it’s been a political football, and it hasn’t stopped in either national or local news since then.


Comment from Sven in Colorado
Time: January 19, 2011, 3:43 pm


The movement to recall Dupnik is underway:


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: January 19, 2011, 4:03 pm

Ah. I’m glad you posted that, Sven. Not least because I had missed C Sherman’s interesting comment.

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