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BBC Global Warming flap

Okay, y’all know the temperature has been flat for a decade, right? And now it looks like, thanks at least in part to La Nina, it’s going to get substantially colder this year.

Well, BBC News did a fairly dismissive little story about it which included the line “A minority of scientists question whether this means global warming has peaked.”

That kicked off an email exchange between a Warmist true believer, Jo Abbess, and the reporter in question, Roger Harrabin. He argued with her a little, but eventually caved and weakened the article.

Okay, here’s the great part: Jo Wotsit was so proud of herself, she published the whole email exchange on the Web. Bee-yootiful.

The thread is worth reading, while it’s still up. It’s full of bluster and threat. If it gets taken down, the Junk Science blog has got it. I first ran across this at the Dick List. Our friends at BBC Biased are nattering about it. And here’s Mad Mel in the Spectator.

Have you ever wondered how much shit we would be in if the other side weren’t so damned stupid?

sock it to me

Comments


Comment from Steamboat McGoo
Time: April 11, 2008, 1:22 pm

Junk Science, Junk Science blog, Steve McIntyre’s Climate Audit page, Climate Debate page, and Watts Up With That site are all really good places to get your skeptical climate crap dose for the day. I check ’em all daily.

http://www.junkscience.com/
http://junkscience.com/blog_js/
http://climateaudit.org/
http://climatedebatedaily.com/
http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/

The Climate Audit site is really good if you’re a bit mathematically inclined, as it quite often shows just where the Alarmists go wrong – either unintentionally, or more often, by intent or ignorance (IMHO). It also illustrates the blatent fraud (IMHO) implicit in some of the definitive papers on “Global Warming”.

Do I ever love that edit function! Weaz – you are a Goddess!

 


Comment from Kowboy
Time: April 11, 2008, 1:26 pm

Have you ever wondered how much shit we would be in if the other side weren’t so damned stupid?

Weaz, if they weren’t stupid, they’d be us. 🙂

 


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: April 11, 2008, 1:28 pm

As somebody pointed out to this silly bint on the Campaign Against Climate Change site (where she published the email exchage) — what happens if there really is cooling, and we’ve stifled all mention of it? Nobody will listen to a climate scientist in a zillion years.

I’m not sure that’s really true, however. Have you ever heard anyone apologize or lose his job over the Y2K scare?

 


Comment from Muslihoon
Time: April 11, 2008, 1:30 pm

Have you ever heard anyone apologize or lose his job over the Y2K scare?

That’s because they’re protected by the dreaded Duct Tape Industry.

 


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: April 11, 2008, 1:33 pm

I have to confess: Uncle B and I stockpiled toilet paper prior to Y2K. We were going to fill the bathtub with water, just in case, but decided not to at the last minute.

Toilet paper. The man has his priorities straight.

Unfortunately, all the TP he could find was pumpkin orange. So for weeks afterward, every time I used a square, I glanced down and thought, “holy shit, did something that color come out of ME?!?”

 


Comment from Muslihoon
Time: April 11, 2008, 1:37 pm

It’s always good to have emergency supplies nevertheless. In case — Heaven forfend — a natural disaster strikes or — Heaven forfend even more — unemployment hits.

Every now and then I hear stories about folks who become unemployed but are able to coast along for some time due to money and supplies (food, toiletries, et cetera) that they collected as emergency supplies for many years.

 


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: April 11, 2008, 1:53 pm

Musli, we could wait out the next Ice Age with the cans of beans and steak pies Uncle B has hoarded.

 


Comment from Uncle Badger
Time: April 11, 2008, 2:09 pm

It’s true. I’m afraid I have um…. a bit of a hoarding problem.

 


Comment from Gibby Haynes
Time: April 11, 2008, 2:25 pm

Yeah, I was sort of disappointed that the nukes never went off during Y2K.
I like how El Nino is directly caused by AGW, but El Nina – it’s polar opposite – is a natural weather phenomenon.
bbc-biased.blogspot.com? pfft, biased-bbc.blogspot.com is where it’s at.

 


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: April 11, 2008, 2:29 pm

I dropped Biased BBC after they had a purge, Gibby. The problem is, not many people know they had a purge, because…well, it was totally purged. Duh. It was a petty and worthless thing, too.

I realize they’re still by far the biggest of the BBC tracking blogs, but aggressive forum over-moderation pisses me off right down to the cellular level, so I won’t link them.

BBC-Biased is a splitoff blog that dates from the purge, though they try not to get into pissing contests with Biased-BBC. Good enough for me.

 


Comment from Gibby Haynes
Time: April 11, 2008, 2:42 pm

All that’s changed though Weas. Their old moderator, Andrew something-or-other, seemingly no longer has anything to do with the blog. They’ve got this Northern Irish chap, David Vance, doing most of the stuff now.
I used to never be able to get one of my stupid comments to stick, no matter how serious I tried to make it. Now, with DV, I can write any silly old shit, and lo and behold, it doesn’t get removed.

 


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: April 11, 2008, 2:46 pm

David Vance. I remember the name from somewhere.

Yeah, I’m pretty sure it was Andrew something who went on the homicidal tear. Have you ever seen anybody do that on a BBS? It’s amazing.

It starts with purging a troll or two. That gives a certain kind of moderator a taste for the hammer, so he moves on to off topic posts and duplicate threads. Then anyone who dares complain about the purges. It usually ends in indiscriminate massacre.

It’s a treat to watch; like watching someone devoured by flesh-eating bacteria.

 


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: April 11, 2008, 2:50 pm

HOLY SHIT! Yesterday’s Stumble-Upon just took off. Good ol’ Zombie Reagan has had 300 hits in the last hour.

Talk about a treat to watch: it doesn’t get any better on a Friday afternoon than a sudden explosion in your usage logs. That’s *better* than watching someone devoured by flesh-eating bacteria.

 


Comment from Gibby Haynes
Time: April 11, 2008, 2:53 pm

I was ambivalent about it. It kept you on your toes; forced you to really think about what you were going to say. And it prevented cretins like me from cluttering up the comments with simple-minded gibberish. Which is good.
But comments tend to reference each other so that Andrew fellow – like you said – used to end up deleting who swathes of comments. Which is bad.
No wonder he got ill.

 


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: April 11, 2008, 2:58 pm

I like simple-minded gibberish. Just as well, really. Bring me your dumb, your crazy, your simple-minded gibberish, longing for a platform.

WHEEEEEE! Stand over here by the hit counter, Gibby, and feel the wind blow through your hair. It’s like being that chick on the Titanic standing in the prow of the ship pretending to fly.

The movie, not the actual Titanic.

 


Comment from Gibby Haynes
Time: April 11, 2008, 3:09 pm

Titanic. I love special effects movies and all, but some of the effects in that film were a little over the top. Like that bit you mention, where Leo DiCaprio hoists Kate Winslet’s mass up with his little-boy body without slipping a disc or popping a hernia or having a full rectal prolapse.
Yeah, right. Nice try Hollywood.

http://www.nature.com/ncpgasthep/journal/v4/n10/images/ncpgasthep0952-f1.jpg

Uh-oh, that’s not right.

 


Comment from Christopher Taylor
Time: April 11, 2008, 3:21 pm

y’all know the temperature has been flat for a decade, right?

Actually no, it’s gone down.

 


Comment from porknbean
Time: April 11, 2008, 3:23 pm

ACK!! GIBBY! WTF? What the hell really causes THAT? A gerbil?
I pushed out 9 pound babies and my plumbing, albeit left floppy and soggy-like, stayed put.

…though I’m sure DiCaprio had a pants full of..of…THAT, from something other than Winslet.

 


Comment from porknbean
Time: April 11, 2008, 3:33 pm

Hoarding certain things, like TP, isn’t a bad idea. If shit literally hits the fan, it would be a trade item worth it’s weight in gold.
I’m starting to hoard incandecent lightbulbs. Husband saw my stash in the unused kitchen cabinet and gave me the gimlet eye. Hey, last time I went into Target they were on sale and I had coupons……AND I noticed the incandescent selection is getting smaller and smaller. I can’t even find the white globes for above my kitchen table anymore.

 


Comment from porknbean
Time: April 11, 2008, 3:36 pm

Every now and then I hear stories about folks who become unemployed but are able to coast along for some time due to money and supplies

Exactly the way people should be living. Self reliance includes planning for the inevitable life kicking you in the ass events and the inevitable retirement years.
It is recommended to have at least 6 months living expenses put aside for such things, but I would go so far as to say, make it a couple years worth.

 


Comment from Pupster
Time: April 11, 2008, 3:50 pm

Gibby…dude. That picture is just so…DUDE!

I won’t be able to crap again. Ever.

 


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: April 11, 2008, 3:54 pm

Okay, I’m not going to look at the picture. Just tell me…is it the unfortunate weight lifter (or was it a wrestler?) who blew his own ass out his own ass?

 


Comment from Uncle Badger
Time: April 11, 2008, 4:16 pm

I’m with the Weasel on biased-BBC. Andrew Wasssname had all the Caledonian charm, charisma and sound judgement of our own, beloved, Prime Monster. I’m not over-fond of David Vance’s posts, either. It rarely helps to overstate your case and, dog only knows, you hardly need to with the ludicrous BBC’s Lefty bias.

The hoarding thing is good PnB, a wholesome, badgery goodness I always say. But, um, I have some cans that are years out of date.

And then there are the freezers…

Wow! Hasn’t the price of food rocketed?

 


Comment from Pupster
Time: April 11, 2008, 4:25 pm

Not the weightlifter picture I’ve seen…that thing ^ up yonder is a close-up of an inside out colon greeting the morning sunshine. Just a guess, from Gibby’s comment I would say it’s a classic clinical example of full rectal prolapse. All up in your face and stuff. Not the clever Kate Winslet photo-shop I was braced for.

Somebody better warn McGoo.

 


Comment from porknbean
Time: April 11, 2008, 4:52 pm

I’m not sure who owns the ass in the picture weasel, but whoever it was blew himself inside out.

Uncle B, maybe dry beans and rice would be better food items to hoard. And water purification stuffs. The rest should be rotated out. Once a year, I supplement what I usually buy for the Boy Scout food drive with what I didn’t use in the pantry – always keeping a eye on the expiration.
I wish I had a freezer.

Heh. The husband hollers at me…’You are a hoarder. Admit it!’…as if I was doing something wrong. This coming from a man of German stock, who are so tight they squeak when they walk. You are born, you eat, you work, you eat, you die, leaving no clutter behind. Anything that has nothing to do with that philosophy or having more than you need at any given time is a waste. Quite efficient with barely a carbon footprint sort of antiseptic killjoy way.

 


Comment from Uncle Badger
Time: April 11, 2008, 5:11 pm

Oh, I know that mindset, PnB. I’ve a friend who genuinely seems to believe that anything you haven’t used for six months is surplus to requirements and should be thrown.

The Weasel and I aren’t, um, like that. Ever so.

Freezers, I love. In fact I have several and I’m quite good with rotating the stuff in them. It transforms your life as you never run out of anything, can take advantage of sudden bargains, don’t have to go shopping unless you really need to, can freeze garden stuff, roadkill…. Oops! Did I say roadkill?

Anyway. Highly recommended.

 


Comment from jwpaine
Time: April 11, 2008, 9:09 pm

I was right in the middle of building my ranch (which is off the grid (meaning we have to produce our own electricity)) when the Y2K hysteria broke out. The panic drove the price of high-efficiency refrigerators off the charts, and turned a two-week wait into a two-year backlog of orders (we wound up buying a different brand because we needed a refrigerator now, not two years from now).

BTW: Paying three grand for a 15cf reefer is just freaking wrong. Worse, three years later, I bought a 32cf KitchenAid refrigerator that uses less power than that “high-efficiency” POS, and it only cost $5K.

 


Comment from jwpaine
Time: April 11, 2008, 9:18 pm

On the hoarding thing, check out the Mormons. Part of their dogma includes storing enough to take care of your family for an entire year. They have developed rotation schedules (so you don’t wind up with cans years out of date), items lists, storage strategies, etc.

(I learned all this when I was in the Navy and stayed for a couple of months in the home of a buddy of mine and his family. Say what you will about the Mormons–they ain’t stupid.)

 


Comment from porknbean
Time: April 11, 2008, 10:02 pm

Have you ever wondered how much shit we would be in if the other side weren’t so damned stupid?

Michael Yon says the same thing about al qaeda in Iraq.

 


Comment from porknbean
Time: April 11, 2008, 10:11 pm

The Weasel and I aren’t, um, like that. Ever so.

Same with me. Though I do get aggravated at clutter and thin it out, I will not give up certain useless things in the eyes of my MIL, that I collect. At one point in our marriage, she had a little talk with her son, who warned her not to go there. If she only knew the true extent of ‘my problem’. *snort*

 


Comment from porknbean
Time: April 11, 2008, 10:15 pm

jwp – Did your fridge come with gold leaf? I have never purchased a fridge for more than $600-700. And the cheapest one we bought has been the most efficient.

 


Comment from jwpaine
Time: April 11, 2008, 10:26 pm

The KitchenAid? I’d have to check, and I will, next time I wander upstairs (fat, drunk and stupid is the only way to go through life).

I’m used to the 600-700 range myself, and that 3K for a high-efficiency model (separate compressors for the fridge and the insulated shoebox the manufacturer called a freezer) was horrifying. Plus, the fridge was noisy and used more power than a standard $500 model I bought at Sears a couple of years later (both of those were for our apartment in the barn, where we lived for five years while our “big house” was being built; the KitchenAid is in the Big House. As am I.).

I do know the KitchenAid is very power-efficient. Whether it’s Gold Leaf remains to be seen.

 


Comment from LemurKing
Time: April 12, 2008, 2:43 am

Got blurry-eyed a quarter of the way through the thread and jumped down to say this (I’m tired but I’ll read the rest in the morning, I promise – and I’d love to say thing about the global warming hysteria and that thing we call the sun if no one else has brought it up yet – if you have, sorry).

Lots of things can substitute for food if you are hungry enough. The harsh lesson regarding toilet paper was driven home to me one time while camping, when my buddy stole the toilet paper out of the latrine and left just a Reader’s Digest. You begin to really get your priorities straight once you’ve taken a Reader’s Digest into the End Zone.

 


Comment from TRM
Time: April 12, 2008, 7:22 am

Maybe Algore should give her a few grand of that 300 million he’s spending to convice the world of global warming… she did help after all…

 


Comment from TRM
Time: April 12, 2008, 7:23 am

Oh yeah, and I never get tired of muslim rage boy with a pnacake on his head…

 


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: April 12, 2008, 7:49 am

Heh. Steal him if you like. (Sheesh…give some people an edit function, and they still eat pnacakes for breakfast).

 


Comment from Former Lurker
Time: April 17, 2008, 6:20 am

“Sheesh…give some people an edit function, and they still eat pnacakes for breakfast”

A prime example of why I love this blog.

 


Comment from Aurora Lewis
Time: November 12, 2008, 11:56 pm

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