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Give ’em hell, Paul

Heh. I probably shouldn’t have gone with this. I don’t actually expect Ryan to slaughter Biden. Joe is, no kidding, a pretty decent debater. When he pays attention and keeps his shit together, he can pull off a damn good genial and statesman-like imposture.

And Ryan could come off as an abrasive smartass. Worst case, it might look like cocky puppy versus wise silver fox.

Well. Let’s hope for better. It’ll be in the wee hours my time, so I won’t know until morning. (Ah, I see Ace is managing expectations).

Remember — here. Tomorrow. Six of the clock Weasel Blog Time.

Dead Pool Round 39!!!


Comment from S. Weasel
Time: October 11, 2012, 10:23 pm

My dad, who is a political junkie and as staunch a conservative as you could hope to find, doesn’t like Ryan. It’s probably an old guy thing, but we do need the old guy vote.

Comment from QuasiModo
Time: October 11, 2012, 10:53 pm

O/T Asteroid near miss (88,000 KM) at 2:00am EDT (0600 UTC)…it’s 17-30 metres in size so not world ending but pretty scary nonetheless.

Linky: http://www.universetoday.com/97927/asteroid-2012-tc4-to-buzz-earth-on-october-12/

Comment from Stark Dickflüssig
Time: October 12, 2012, 1:56 am

I’m not watching the duhbate, but I’d guess the best tactic would be to let Joe just ramble. P. Ryan could just keep a pleasant smile & avoid eye contact.

Comment from Davem123@yahoo.com
Time: October 12, 2012, 2:29 am

Ryan is beating Biden on the facts. Biden is beating himself with his childish behavior.

Comment from Becca
Time: October 12, 2012, 2:33 am

Martha the Interrupting Moderator was a disaster. Ryan was debating two people tonight.

Joe was an utter assferret (no offense, Stoaty). Laughing, smirking, constantly interrupting.

Comment from PatAZ
Time: October 12, 2012, 4:29 am

Right, Becca. It turned out just the opposite of what you expected, Ms Weasel. Paul was the gentleman and Joe was Crazy Uncle Joe, the A$$hat.

Comment from Oceania
Time: October 12, 2012, 8:56 am

None of you have noticed yet that you are a one party state?

Comment from S. Weasel
Time: October 12, 2012, 10:19 am

Awesome. I was hoping for a pleasant surprise this morning. Now to sample the web reactions…

Comment from S. Weasel
Time: October 12, 2012, 11:11 am

Well. Glad I didn’t try to watch the debates through — I think my spleen would have popped. The grinning sarcastic Joe Biden is my least favorite version.

Comment from Deborah
Time: October 12, 2012, 11:59 am

Ryan showed up for a debate. Biden, glib and facile, showed up for a comedy roast.

Comment from Clifford Skridlow
Time: October 12, 2012, 1:48 pm

As my late Father-in-law would have said, poor old Uncle Joe was grinnin’ like a jackass eating a prickly pear.

Comment from Bob Mulroy
Time: October 12, 2012, 3:39 pm

I have to wonder if OM-bama et al are trying to throw the election?

Comment from S. Weasel
Time: October 12, 2012, 4:34 pm

I’m amazed at how chuffed the left is on this one. They really think Joe done good last night.

How anyone could watch that performance and not get wracking douche-chills, I do not know. I’ve tried to look at it without my partisan filter. I think it would creep me out if he were on my side. I think it might even creep me out harder.

Comment from gebrauchshund
Time: October 12, 2012, 5:39 pm

I lasted for about a half hour before I had to turn it off in order to avoid having to buy a new TV. I find it mind boggling that anyone could watch that braying jackass and see potential presidential material. That goes far beyond partisan bias into the realm of certifiable douchesanity.

Comment from J.S.Bridges
Time: October 12, 2012, 8:45 pm

It was pretty grim, but I managed to more-or-less watch the whole thing. At several junctures, I did cheat a bit by muting the sound – I was eating a late dinner, and didn’t want to start gagging or anything.

Clearly it was two-against-one, but Ryan came through in pretty good shape, partly due to the dual facts that he’d done his homework, and he kept his cool under heavy provocation and also partly due to the grinnin’ idiot who was his petulant, snarling primary “opponent”. While Ratso Raddatz did her ugly “non-partisan” best to impede Ryan and to encourage ol’ Hairplugs in his smirk-interrupt-and-snark “tactics”, she was only marginally effective – it was Bungler Biden’s own largely-pointless pontification and snarly smarminess that mostly helped to carry the day for the calm and collected Ryan, who remained factual and focused throughout.

As stated by others, Paul Ryan came to debate and win – Joe Biden came to sneer and mug. Not an overwhelming victory for Ryan, perhaps, but a clear winning margin, certainly.

It’s said that Biden was supposedly added to the Obama ticket in 2008 to bring “foreign policy heft” – I didn’t see it then, and I sure don’t see it now. What a macaroon…

Comment from S. Weasel
Time: October 12, 2012, 9:36 pm

I wish I could remember which blog had this essay, but someone postulated that Joe was put on the ticket to be exactly the mugging embarrassment that he is – to illustrate the idea that the age of old white guys running things is over, thank god.

It’s an interesting hypothesis.

Comment from Oldcat
Time: October 13, 2012, 12:39 am

Well, he’s there because Obama will always look good in comparison.

I doubt that there is any deeper significance. Barry isn’t deep.

Comment from Some Vegetable
Time: October 13, 2012, 1:10 pm

Mrs. Vegetable watched the debate with me mostly because, for fun, I’d made popcorn and bought -well, more- beer.

She hated Uncle Joe’s performance. She thought the moderater a weak woman who controlled Ryan strictly because she could while she couldn’t do anything with Biden without making a scene… no because of concious bias.

She actually got mad at the headline the next morning on Yahoo,
” Biden dominates debate”.

She can’t vote though because she’s neither a citizen nor a Democrat nor an illegal.

Comment from Subotai Bahadur
Time: October 14, 2012, 2:52 am

Why was Biden on the ticket? I don’t know if you have noticed, but there is a frequent tendency in modern times to name a vice president who terrifies the opposition. It is a matter of life insurance. If the president fears assassination, he names a VP who the opposition figures will be far worse as president. Nixon-Agnew, Bush-Quayle, Bush-Cheney, Obama-Biden.

We watched the whole thing. Me, because I am politically active. My wife and one of my daughters watched perforce. They were spitting-fire furious at Biden and Raddatz.

My guess is that Biden roused the Leftist base, which had been getting dispirited at the now apparent incompetence of Obama. But in the process pushed away independents, moderates, and women. Net loss.

Subotai Bahadur

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