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franken grope

The search term I used on Google images was “franken grope” — I knew that would call the one I wanted up, and it did.

If anyone needs it, I think I kept the exploitable pieces. That is, a cutout of Al that can be plastered to any tits you choose.


Comment from Durnedyankee
Time: November 27, 2017, 8:28 pm

I can but wonder if Her Majesty would have been amused.
Probably not, grubby little colonial peasant.
I do have the pleasure of imagining him then being thrashed to within an inch of his pudgy unfunny life by some stalwart gentlemen though.

But he’s sorry and even if he can’t remember what it was he did, he promises it won’t happen again (well, there certainly will not be photos this time, you can bet).
We are not to ask how he can promise not to do it again when he can’t even remember he did it at all.

Comment from Ric Fan
Time: November 27, 2017, 11:23 pm

I’ve been rewatching The Civil War by Ken Burns, who I do not like. Saw it when it first aired and then again a few years later. Man, what a blood bath! Trying to remember if their were similar wars before this one. The Napoleonic wars had huge, even larger armies, but they werent brother against brother. How about in the UK?

Comment from Deborah HH
Time: November 28, 2017, 2:22 am

Ah—The Franken Grope. Sounds like a bad dance (akin to twerking).

Comment from Durnedyankee
Time: November 28, 2017, 12:44 pm

Ric – war(s) of the Roses probably.
And in the Napoleonic wars because himself incorporated the principalities he conquered your last week’s allies were often this week’s enemies.
By 1812 you have the Prussians and Austrian imperial troops fighting with the French against the Russians.
And then one of his Marshals leading the Swedes against him a year later from the throne that the Bernadottes still occupy.

Had to be fathers, sons, brothers, uncles and cousins in there too.

Comment from Deborah HH
Time: November 28, 2017, 4:11 pm

@Ric Fan. I read Andersonville by MacKinlay Kantor when I was a teenager, and it pretty much scarred me for life. I tried reading The Killer Angels by Michael Shaara (after he won the Pulitzer) and just couldn’t finish for the tears.

While doing genealogical research this past year, I found a lot of ancestors who fought in the War of Northern Aggression … uh, War Between the States. But I have not researched their companies to see which battles they fought in.

Comment from S. Weasel
Time: November 28, 2017, 6:29 pm

Uncle B and I have had this discussion, Ric Fan. We agree that the American Civil War was the first modern war, probably because of the sheer amount of ordnance. Things like the gatling gun.

It’s not that prior wars weren’t godawful and bloody, it’s just that innovation changed the scale of the slaughter.

I skipped Ken Burns. I had a feeling it would piss me off. Most media about the civil war do, one way or another.

Comment from Durnedyankee
Time: November 28, 2017, 8:13 pm

Considering the improvement in accuracy of the rifled musket over smooth bores without much tactical change, I’m always amazed that the casualties weren’t higher.
Though the Americans also used buck & ball in their muskets, from the time of the Revolutionary war and into the ‘un’Civil War (War between the States, War of Northern Aggression) whereas the European armies did not.

Hitting a man sized target at 200 yds with a rifled musket is quite doable, less likely with a smoothbore though buck and ball improves the random hit rate.

Having fired live volleys in line I can attest to the accuracy, but firing on a one way range isn’t the same as firing on a 2 way range.

Comment from Ric Fan
Time: November 28, 2017, 9:54 pm

stoaty: I dont like Burns but I do like this documentary. The music is excellent and the commentary, especially by Shelby Foote, is also excellent. It does not unfairly bash the South and is in fact sympathetic. Worth a viewing.

It amazes me how eloquent people were back then and I dont mean the upper educated classes. The lowly soldier and slave could still express themselves better than most people today.

Deborah: I read Andersonville a million years ago and a number of other Civil War histories/bios. But it has been so long and I dont own copies, so I forgot most of the info.

While I dont remember more than superficial details of the battles, hearing the names is still unsettling.

All in all, the attacks on Confederate memorials makes me sad. The idiots doing it have no clue.

Comment from S. Weasel
Time: November 28, 2017, 10:27 pm

I’m damned if I remember where it was, but I went to one civil war museum that had on display a huge tree trunk that had been entirely chipped in half by stray bullets. Hell of an impressive thing to see in person.

Comment from Bob in Omaha
Time: November 29, 2017, 1:16 am

Tree was probably Spotsylvania – fighting at Mule Shoe Salient possibly most intense of CW – troops massed on opposite sides of barricade.
As far as scale of slaughter, Borodino matched any CW battle.

Comment from David Gillies
Time: November 29, 2017, 4:47 am

About 2% of the US population died during the Civil War (~600000/30000000). By comparison to the English Civil war, this is small potatoes. Closer to 4% of the population of England and 6% of the population of Scotland died. Ireland lost 40% of its population. More Irish died in absolute numbers than US soldiers and civilians did in the Civil War from a population one twentieth the size.

The Wars of the Roses killed about 40000 out of a population of 1.9 million i.e. ~2%. That would be about 1.3 million people as a proportion of the UK’s current population.

As a proportion of world population the An Lushan Rebellion, which was basically a civil war, dwarfs anything before or since, including WW2.

It’s tempting to think the US Civil War was sui generis. It wasn’t.

Comment from Timbo
Time: November 30, 2017, 8:04 pm

Ken Burns has his Vietnam documentary on Public Telly in the USA at the moment. Yes, I’m in Miami escaping the cold in Spain.
Anyhoo, I stopped watching it as it’s just a series of laments and I don’t like Ken Burns either.

Comment from Jose Chupacabra
Time: December 3, 2017, 6:48 pm

Yes please! I’d love to have the Franken grope cutout.

Big Winehouse fan and you know what I’m going to paste him on first.

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